[AL78]

♠K5
♥T53
♦-
♣AQ987532

MPs, Dealer, red against green, playing Acol weak NT.

[jillybean]

A natural 4♣ for me.

Younger me may consider 1♣ for a moment

[Gilithin]

3NT if playing this as a good 4 level minor preempt, 4♣ otherwise.

[akwoo]

Yeah, 3♣ is too low (though just barely at this vulnerability), but I don't really want to keep partner from playing in 3N if they have K♣ and assorted values.

This is a good hand for having agreements where you don't have a 4♣ preempt available (because you're playing some form of Namyats).

[Cyberyeti]

1♣, my partner always has a holding like Qx, Axx, QJxxxx, Kx where 3N makes and 5♣ doesn't if I bypass it

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

you could pass.

It is certainly a reasonable 4C opening bid, 5C is a bit too much at this colors,
you will quite often hear the opp. make a (T/O) X and play it there.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[AL78]

I would normally open a hand with an eight card suit at the four level but decided due to the unfavourable vulnerability to open 3♣, which also leaves 3NT on the table if I have pre-empted partner. I got battered:

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Both major suit finesses are wrong and the defence managed to engineer a heart ruff after I took the losing finesse so one down for -200 and a bottom:

3♠ N +140
4♠ N -100
4♠ N -50
3♣X N +200
4♠ N -50

[smerriman]

What has any of that got to do with your choice of bid?

[AL78]

smerriman, on 2024-February-08, 03:21, said:

What has any of that got to do with your choice of bid?

Sanity check. I feel better if my choice to pre-empt is in good company. Twice in that session I made red against green pre-empts and both times I got doubled and 0%. I was wondering on this hand if anyone would consider opening 1♣ which flashed through my mind.

[Douglas43]

Only 3C for me. Partner is still there and could have a decent hand with Kx of clubs where 3NT is on.

[pescetom]

Douglas43, on 2024-February-08, 15:53, said:

Only 3C for me. Partner is still there and could have a decent hand with Kx of clubs where 3NT is on.

For once we agree, even Jx might be enough.
Although I am still struggling to define 4♣ as I previously played Namyats and did not have it available.

[pescetom]

AL78, on 2024-February-08, 07:44, said:

Sanity check. I feel better if my choice to pre-empt is in good company.

I struggle to see why 4♠ went down with a sane North at all 5 tables, especially on the probable ♣A lead.

[smerriman]

AL78, on 2024-February-08, 07:44, said:

Sanity check. I feel better if my choice to pre-empt is in good company. Twice in that session I made red against green pre-empts and both times I got doubled and 0%. I was wondering on this hand if anyone would consider opening 1♣ which flashed through my mind.

Agreed with all of that, though it sounded like you connected your decision with being battered / getting a bad result - did every other table open 1♣?