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Trained on human bidding and GIB?

#1 User is offline   wbartley 

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Posted 2026-June-07, 08:32

A system trained to bid based on GIB and human bidding would never neglect to make a negative double with this hand.

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Posted Yesterday, 07:09

do you say that it's wrong for north to pass after 1S?

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Posted Today, 10:28

View Postlorserker, on 2026-June-08, 07:09, said:

do you say that it's wrong for north to pass after 1S?

No, i think he implies that S should reopen with X instead of 2.

Whether this is correct or not is a different story, but as a rule of thumb, responder intending to pass with this type of hand over a reopening double, should have a rebid available, in case this is not the case.

Unless of course we are talking 5hcp or less on hand.
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Posted Today, 18:34

View Postlorserker, on 2026-June-08, 07:09, said:

do you say that it's wrong for north to pass after 1S?


I was actually South here and the Ben robot was North. The computer changes the names because it makes you play the hand when the bot is declarer. Yes. I'm saying it's wrong for North to pass 1S.

Making a negative double is the correct bid. Making a trap pass in the hope of getting to defend 1S with five to the JT is folly. Even if you manage to beat it one trick (I don't think you can beat it here), you could be cold for 4H.

Surely if you give this hand to GIB it makes a negative double. I'll upload it to a practice table and see what GIBBO basic and advanced do with it.
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