Another lead question
#1
Posted 2019-February-02, 10:07
#2
Posted 2019-February-02, 13:35
#4
Posted 2019-February-02, 16:39
Why he thinks the diamond Ace is cashing, or that declarer has a pitch for it (so we need to lead it immediately) is a mystery.
Of course, maybe he holds QJ109 in trump and the opponents are as bad as I think them to be.
I would want to know the meaning of 2D but I assume its some sort of strong jump. I dont think Ive played against anyone who uses this jumpshift, as strong, in more than 30 years.
#5
Posted 2019-February-02, 17:15
mikeh, on 2019-February-02, 16:39, said:
Why he thinks the diamond Ace is cashing, or that declarer has a pitch for it (so we need to lead it immediately) is a mystery.
Of course, maybe he holds QJ109 in trump and the opponents are as bad as I think them to be.
I would want to know the meaning of 2D but I assume its some sort of strong jump. I dont think Ive played against anyone who uses this jumpshift, as strong, in more than 30 years.
You haven't played over here then recently, jump shift is often strong here, but often strong and fit showing.
This looks like a lightner double, would not surprise me at all if partner has a club void (and also not surprise me if the ruff merely prevents the overtrick) but our best hope would seem to be that partner still has a trump trick after the ruff.
Maybe opps are 1462/2416 or similar and partner has 6 small spades, QJxx of hearts and a club void.
#6
Posted 2019-February-02, 21:43
#7
Posted 2019-February-03, 00:12
#8
Posted 2019-February-03, 00:45
I'm asking myself "What kind of hand can opener have that bids slam after responder shows a ♦ suit and raises ♥". If opener had a short ♣ hand, I don't think there's a hand that would fit that bidding scenario. So, I'm giving opener ♣ length.
Secondly, I'm expecting a "good partner" to know what a Lightner double is. So I'm leading a ♣ expecting partner to ruff.
I'm not leading a low ♣ which partner might interpret as a suit preference for ♦. A ♦ return might give away the whole ♦ suit. I'm also keeping ♣ Q10 which might yield a second trick if partner is void.
#9
Posted 2019-February-03, 01:46
#10
Posted 2019-February-03, 02:09
pes_6, on 2019-February-03, 01:46, said:
Double specifically asks you to make an unusual lead. If I wanted a spade lead I definitely wouldn't double.
It normally asks me to lead dummy's suit, but I'm going with a club also. But agree with Mike the opponents probably don't know what they're doing.
#11
Posted 2019-February-03, 02:31
#12
Posted 2019-February-03, 02:33
silvr bull, on 2019-February-02, 10:07, said:
I actually suspect your partner's double here is based on something like QJT8 of trump. But if not, then he either has the AKd or a void somewhere. I'd say the latter is far more likely given your hand, so I will try a club.
Cheers,
Mike
#13
Posted 2019-February-03, 02:52
Subsequent bidding is also inconsistent with the bid being strong. A strong jump 2D is forcing to game, so why has West jumped to 4H, rather than conserving space and bidding 3H? And why has east jumped to slam with no check on controls, but not looked for a geand slam?
The only slightly sensible construction that I could think of is that 1C is precision, 2D is natural and positive, 2H is East's suit (possibly with diamond support) and east has all of the controls and enough to bid slam opposite a positive with heart support and a diamond suit. In this scenario, I lead a diamond.
#14
Posted 2019-February-03, 12:34
Note: Example hands edited. Thanks smerriman!
West....East
AKx.....void
Kxxx....Axxxx
Kxxxxx..Jx
void....AKJxxx
Another possibility could be partner having a D void and a trump trick. Those hands would look similar to this:
AKJ.....void
Qxxx....KJTx
AKJxxx..xxxx
void....AKJxx
If partner does not have a C void, leading a C could be costly for us. So I led a D. I posted this to see what other people would lead.
Unfortunately, the actual hands were as shown below. The majority who led a C got this one right.
#15
Posted 2019-February-03, 13:27
#16
Posted 2019-February-03, 13:59
Of course, E/W's bidding is nonsense in all three scenarios..
#17
Posted 2019-February-03, 14:05
BTW, one consideration in choosing a ♣ versus a ♦ lead is that a ♦ lead may give away the whole suit. If partner has the ♦ A, it's unlikely to go away.
#18
Posted 2019-February-03, 14:16
#19
Posted 2019-February-04, 03:21
the X should be a Lightner ... asking for a minor, I pick my longest.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#20
Posted 2019-February-04, 04:52
P_Marlowe, on 2019-February-04, 03:21, said:
the X should be a Lightner ... asking for a minor, I pick my longest.
With kind regards
Marlowe
Yup, this is to me a much more difficult problem if W just bid 6♥ rather than 4 and E bidding 6. Now he could be something stupid like 0490 and the diamond lead could be right.