[MrAce]

This hand came today in insta tournament. IMP

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Opps are GIB.

T1 - ♦2-A-8-4
T2 - ♠3-4-9-A
T3 - ♦ 7-5-T-ruff
T4 - ♠ 7-5-T-K

West now plays ♥T, how do you continue?

[Phil]

Imps or mps?

[MrAce]

 Phil, on 2016-June-07, 13:21, said:

Imps or mps?

IMP

[Cyberyeti]

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Providing I'm confident the weak 2 opener will have 6 of them, I take the ace, draw the trump and finesse on the first round of clubs

[MrAce]

 Cyberyeti, on 2016-June-07, 15:01, said:

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Providing I'm confident the weak 2 opener will have 6 of them, I take the ace, draw the trump and finesse on the first round of clubs

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Yes, GIB never opens weak 2 with 5.

Weak 2 opener can not have 4 clubs, (he followed 2 ♦ and 2 ♠) but his partner can. so I played as you said.

Posted this hand because it is nice and easy hand to show the safety notion for novice/beginners for 4-1 ♣ on both sides

[robert2734]

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East can't have 4 clubs because it has 6 ♥ 2+♠ 2+♦. So I play ace ♥ ,club to the board, ruff a diamond high, club to the board. There is three possibilities here. East follows suit and the clubs are 3-2. Win, draw the last trump with the ten staying on the board, run the clubs. East ruffs holding me to my contract. Now I play a low club off the board, ruff the red card led next with the board's ten and run the clubs. East discards. Win, ruff a club high, play a trump to the board's ten, run the clubs.

[MrAce]

 robert2734, on 2016-June-07, 18:11, said:

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East can't have 4 clubs because it has 6 ♥ 2+♠ 2+♦. So I play ace ♥ ,club to the board, ruff a diamond high, club to the board. There is three possibilities here. East follows suit and the clubs are 3-2. Win, draw the last trump with the ten staying on the board, run the clubs. East ruffs holding me to my contract. Now I play a low club off the board, ruff the red card led next with the board's ten and run the clubs. East discards. Win, ruff a club high, play a trump to the board's ten, run the clubs.

You are not reading the problem carefully. Reread first 4 tricks and which cards are played before you make a suggestion please.

[Liversidge]

dupe

[Liversidge]

 MrAce, on 2016-June-07, 13:09, said:

This hand came today in insta tournament. IMP

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Opps are GIB.

T1 - ♦2-A-8-4
T2 - ♠3-4-9-A
T3 - ♦ 7-5-T-ruff
T4 - ♠ 7-5-T-K

West now plays ♥T, how do you continue?

East did not lead a heart first round, so maybe he is void and West started with a poor 7 card heart suit. If East had one heart and it was the K♥ I think he would have led it, so I reckon West has the ♥K. If West has 7 hearts then he has at most four clubs.
Win with the ♥A, cross to the A♣ and play the K♣. If East shows out then ruff a third club, ruff a heart and run out the clubs.

[johnu]

 Liversidge, on 2016-June-08, 01:35, said:

East did not lead a heart first round, so maybe he is void and West started with a poor 7 card heart suit. If East had one heart and it was the K♥ I think he would have led it, so I reckon West has the ♥K. If West has 7 hearts then he has at most four clubs.
Win with the ♥A, cross to the A♣ and play the K♣. If East shows out then ruff a third club, ruff a heart and run out the clubs.

North is declarer, and East bid 2♥. Unless East has made a massive psych, East is not void in hearts. Also, the ♠8 is still out.

[Liversidge]

 johnu, on 2016-June-08, 02:08, said:

North is declarer, and East bid 2♥. Unless East has made a massive psych, East is not void in hearts. Also, the ♠8 is still out.

Got my Easts and Wests mixed up, and I had just got up (UK time)! Try again.
East definitely has the K♥ - I can see seven hearts and he has the remaining six for his opening bid.
Win the ♥A. Ruff a heart. Play ♣A and ♣K, and assuming that the clubs split 3-2 I am home dry.
I think I can deal with a 4-1 club break:
If West ruffs K♣ I overruff, back to ♦A and run the clubs.
If East ruffs ♣K and leads back K♥ I ruff in hand and run the clubs - when West plays his ♣J I ruff it, return to hand with the ♦ and run the clubs.
If East ruffs ♣K and plays a diamond I ruff in dummy and then back to ♦A and run the clubs.

I can handle a 5-0 club break unless West is void in clubs and has the outstanding spade.
If East is void and ruffs the ♣K then when I get back in I run the ♣1098 and overruff West's ♣, return to hand with ♦A or a heart ruff and run the remaining clubs.
If West is void and East has the outstanding spade I can let East win the ♣J and win the reurn, taking out the last spade and making 5 clubs, ♦A, ♥A, a heart ruff and three further spades.


Any better?

[NickRW]

 Liversidge, on 2016-June-08, 02:32, said:

If West ruffs K♣ I overruff, back to ♦A and run the clubs.

I think you need some strong coffee. There are two problems with that sentence.

[gszes]

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My first thought is since we really need trumps to be 32 to have a chance (since the opps found the dia pump) why did we not continue trick 4 with the spade Q? But I digress---
Why did west suddenly give up on the very lucrative looking dia continuation?? If you can trust your opps to act sensibly it is most likely because the clubs will run and the only way to set you now seems to be a heart and a heart ruff. SOOOOOOOOOOO hop with the ace draw the last trump and grrrrrrrrrr take a first round club finesse (a safety play). The safety play is probably giving up on making 5 but greatly increases your overall chances of making your game. The overtrick you are probably surrendering is almost worthless compared to the game bonus value at IMPS.

Sigh now I read the spoilers and gave cyberyeti his + and Mr ace for posting a nice problem

[MrAce]

 gszes, on 2016-June-08, 06:52, said:

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My first thought is since we really need trumps to be 32 to have a chance (since the opps found the dia pump) why did we not continue trick 4 with the spade Q? But I digress---
Why did west suddenly give up on the very lucrative looking dia continuation?? If you can trust your opps to act sensibly it is most likely because the clubs will run and the only way to set you now seems to be a heart and a heart ruff. SOOOOOOOOOOO hop with the ace draw the last trump and grrrrrrrrrr take a first round club finesse (a safety play). The safety play is probably giving up on making 5 but greatly increases your overall chances of making your game. The overtrick you are probably surrendering is almost worthless compared to the game bonus value at IMPS.

Sigh now I read the spoilers and gave cyberyeti his + and Mr ace for posting a nice problem

Thanks.