4NT showed the minors. No other agreements.
What's that??
#1
Posted 2015-November-02, 17:51
4NT showed the minors. No other agreements.
#2
Posted 2015-November-02, 18:15
When willing to invite to grand one has 5♠ avaiblable.
#3
Posted 2015-November-02, 18:22
#4
Posted 2015-November-02, 18:23
manudude03, on 2015-November-02, 18:22, said:
That's how I meant option 2 - edited.
#5
Posted 2015-November-02, 18:24
To me, there are two reasonable interpretations. In one, you have a sort of flag approach, where 5NT was a slam try in one of the minors, apparently diamonds. In that interpretation, 6C must have been a sort of Last Train, 6D declining. Hence, 6D is a mild grand invite.
A second plusible is that the nuance is that one invites grand with control and the other without, in spades. In that event, 6C declined, and 6D corrected.
If 5NT asked for choice, I almost give up. But, if so, then 6D is a grand move. This suggests 5S as a club flag, 5NT as a diamond flag or choice. Not unreasonable, but not too smart to whip out undiscussed.
-P.J. Painter.
#6
Posted 2015-November-03, 04:28
#7
Posted 2015-November-05, 15:37
Responder has no room for fancy responses since it is quite possible advancer wants to play clubs. There are two suits where we might need a reasonable asking bid so we use 5s/5n do ask about the two suits. IHO (dont pull this on unsuspecting partner) 5s asks for 1st round control of spades while 5N asks for ONE of the top 3 heart honors. How else does advancer logically search for a grand with the following:
AKxx
AQJ advancer bids 5n asking for 1 of top 3 heart H
AKxxx
A
x
AKQJx advancer bids 5s asking for 1st round control of spades
AKxxxx
A
void
AQJxxxx advancer bid 5n asking for 1 of top 3 heart honors
AKxxx
A
A
KQJT9xxx advancer bids 5n asking for 1 of top 3 heart honors
AK
AK
x
AKxxxxx
AKxxx
void
*5n pick a slam is not useless but severely limited to essentially one hand type (something like) AK AKQJx Kxx Kxx) and wants responder to bid their best/longest minor to cut down on trump losers and has little to no chance of effectively searching for a grand (except when using it in conjunction with the 6c followed by 6d GSF interpretation).
#8
Posted 2015-November-06, 00:46
If north have first control in ♠ with minors fit,it should start cuebid 5♠.
#9
Posted 2015-November-08, 03:05
In particular, did it show the minors, or was it any two-suiter? This is not at all obvious to me, because it depends on other agreements (such as NLM)
#10
Posted 2015-November-08, 05:01
FrancesHinden, on 2015-November-08, 03:05, said:
In particular, did it show the minors, or was it any two-suiter? This is not at all obvious to me, because it depends on other agreements (such as NLM)
Unless the OP was changed between it appearing and your question, we should assume 4NT does show the minors. However, I don't think we are any further forward, as 5NT followed by 6D is undiscussed. Occam's Razor recommends the simplest explanation, and I agree with the brief response by PhantomSac that North has hearts and diamonds.