[biggerclub]

Let's start assuming no competition:

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West dealt.

Seeing both hands, it's obvious that the grand in ♦s is cold barring something highly unlikely in one or both red suits, but how to bid it?

[Lovera]

I'm noting (and likeing) that 6-5 is on "fashion" these days (at me it's happened three times). About title i think not and this one can be a demonstration because actual point counting must be up-to-date (helping not as formouled). The hand at dd viewing from E values 31 points and with others controlls we are in grand zone. About bidding : p-2♣, 2♦-2♠, 3♥-4♦, 5♦ and proceding via cue bid you ought to get at grand but probably is better little slam (eventually +1) to avoid a surprise with this type of shape.(Lovera)

[mike777]

expect to miss grand very often

[Jinksy]

I probably bid this:

4♥ P

On a really inspired day I might manage

4♥ 4♠
5♥ P

[MinorKid]

Yes LTC is an answer

[Cyberyeti]

biggerclub, on 2015-September-25, 23:05, said:

Seeing both hands, it's obvious that the grand in ♦s is cold barring something highly unlikely in one or both red suits, but how to bid it?

Am I missing something, red suits are 3-1/1-3 with Q♥ not dropping, can you make 7♦ ?

[MinorKid]

Cyberyeti, on 2015-September-27, 02:23, said:

Am I missing something, red suits are 3-1/1-3 with Q♥ not dropping, can you make 7♦ ?

Provided trumps were reasonable, why not?

Play dummy reversal.

[Cyberyeti]

MinorKid, on 2015-September-27, 02:27, said:

Provided trumps were reasonable, why not?

Play dummy reversal.

Really not seeing this, can you go through it trick by trick please, you can never cash the second heart if they're 3-1 with the Q not dropping and trumps are not 2-2. Even if trumps are 2-2 and hearts 3-1 on a spade lead you lack the entries to set the hearts up.

[phil_20686]

I might well play in 6H. Partner might be a little disappointed in my trump quality.

[biggerclub]

Cyberyeti, on 2015-September-27, 02:52, said:

Really not seeing this, can you go through it trick by trick please, you can never cash the second heart if they're 3-1 with the Q not dropping and trumps are not 2-2. Even if trumps are 2-2 and hearts 3-1 on a spade lead you lack the entries to set the hearts up.

A ♠ does appear to scuttle the grand if ♥s are 3-1 (which they were).

[gszes]

pass (sorry jinksy)
1s
1n (f)
3d some may make a case for 2d but just too much an underbid for me
3h gotta show these things sometime might as well start now
3s I have 6 don't I?
4h Even with the dia fit (which does not have to be a real suit) a 7 bagger major bears repeating
6d POC (hearts) it just seems unreasonable for responder to have the exact cards needed for 7 to be right so do not bid 6c looking for 7. There is also the spectre in a heart contract that a club lead might create a heart loser. Nothing in responders bidding points to a dia slam unless opener has a heart fit so the POC should be easy to read.

This is a tough decision you KNOW opener has at most a doubleton heart even if HH there might be a problem with a dia ruff or a club lead creating a loser. Yet also tough to imagine making 6 without using the hearts. Overall it just seems like 6d might be better so

PASS

bidding 7 forgetaboutit