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What is 2 Diamonds 2/1 ACBL

#1 User is offline   dickiegera 

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Posted 2014-May-27, 06:32

1NT was explained as Natural






West hand.


Normally after East reply of 1NT west would bid 3♦ to play showing a 4-2-6-1 hand with less than invitational values


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Posted 2014-May-27, 06:42

Why does West only have twelve cards?

2D as natural in this position seems fine to me - but given that game is not out of the question, it should be forcing one round. As such I sincerely hope the missing card is a spade, otherwise West really should have started with 1D and now he's painted himself into a corner.

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Posted 2014-May-27, 06:42

it's just natural and weak. 5+ diamonds. you can safely do it on 5 as you're only at the 2 level.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 06:44

View Postahydra, on 2014-May-27, 06:42, said:

it should be forcing one round.




there is a red card available in his box to express potential for game.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 06:49

View Postahydra, on 2014-May-27, 06:42, said:

Why does West only have twelve cards?

Sorry I added the missing 6th diamond

2D as natural in this position seems fine to me - but given that game is not out of the question, it should be forcing one round. As such I sincerely hope the missing card is a spade, otherwise West really should have started with 1D and now he's painted himself into a corner.

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Posted 2014-May-27, 07:03

View Postahydra, on 2014-May-27, 06:42, said:

As such I sincerely hope the missing card is a spade, otherwise West really should have started with 1D and now he's painted himself into a corner.




you've evidently never played 5cM. it's entirely normal to bid a spade first and entirely normal for this auction to show a weak hand with long diamonds.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 10:57

over east's 1C west should bid 1D. To show spades and then diamonds is asking partner to guess and bidding is not about guessing. 1C-1D-1NT-P-2D is correct - indicating majority points but not forcing.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 11:03

This is a bad hand for Walsh style. Maybe 2♦ here shows longer diamonds but what is west supposed to do with 5-5? Unless I were sure that p would take 2♦ as showing longer diamonds, I would just pass. You never know if partner expects 5-4 and corrects to 2♠ with two doubletons, like the hand he actually had.

This is different from the uncontested auction
1♣-1♠
1NT-2♦
where opener has suggested a balanced hand so with 5-4 (or even 5-5) responder can just bid 2♠.

In any case, 2♦ is is just to play, 5-9 points. Stronger hands can double.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 11:34

I like 2♦ from W. It should show 5+ diamonds and almost always a longer or better quality suit than spades.
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