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I would pass, but I am a rare citizen on this matter.
Is this a TO double? Over a pre-empt
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Posted 2013-September-13, 09:56
I like to have sound values for a direct action over a preempt. This hand is one of the better 11 counts one will ever see. I consider it borderline. If I were 4144 it would be a clear double.
This really is a matter of style more than a matter of right or wrong. It is a clear opening bid, and it is a clear double of 1♥. But it is not a clear double of higher level heart opening bids.
This really is a matter of style more than a matter of right or wrong. It is a clear opening bid, and it is a clear double of 1♥. But it is not a clear double of higher level heart opening bids.
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Posted 2013-September-14, 21:03
Fluffy, on 2013-September-13, 09:21, said:
I would pass, but I am a rare citizen on this matter.
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Posted 2013-September-14, 21:24
Hanoi5, on 2013-September-07, 19:42, said:
Both Red, Butler scoring. You hold on the second seat:
♠ A 8 x x ♥ 6 x ♦ A K 9 8 ♣ 8 6 5
2♥-?
♠ A 8 x x ♥ 6 x ♦ A K 9 8 ♣ 8 6 5
2♥-?
JLOGIC, on 2013-September-10, 03:51, said:
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Posted 2013-September-15, 03:42
" Our partnership-agreement is that 2nd-seat action is sound."
So why don't you double then? You have 5 controls and support for all suits!
So why don't you double then? You have 5 controls and support for all suits!
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Posted 2013-September-15, 08:24
nige1, on 2013-September-14, 21:24, said:
IMO Pass = 10, Double = 9. Our partnership-agreement is that 2nd-seat action is sound. So we share a cell with Fluffy and the other snakes until we learn to trust in KAA
I'll pass and join you, Fluffy and the other snakes in jail. I will bring a deck of cards.
I do think it is awfully close.
The point is that double says that I want our side to declare. But I have KAA. While it is true that these are good cards for offense, they are also excellent cards to have on defense.
If you give me 3x KJxx + a singleton heart then I have a boring, aceless hand that is less suited for offense than the KAA hand, but a takeout double is clear: I don't want to defend a heart contract.
On the actual KAA hand I am very willing to defend against a heart contract. Then I shouldn't make a marginal takeout double.
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Posted 2013-September-15, 09:53
Next time I see a close balancing decision say after 2♥ - p - p to me I must remember to ask if my partner is Justin or Fluffy. And if we are playing for $$, I'll bring my own deck thank you.
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Posted 2013-September-15, 11:54
Questions:
1) Is Lebensohl assumed?
2) What is the minimum for partner to jump directly over a TO double?
My answers:
1) No.
2) A decent 10hcp, say ♠KQx ♥xx ♦xxx ♣KQxxx
So I pass.
1) Is Lebensohl assumed?
2) What is the minimum for partner to jump directly over a TO double?
My answers:
1) No.
2) A decent 10hcp, say ♠KQx ♥xx ♦xxx ♣KQxxx
So I pass.
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Posted 2013-September-16, 01:54
the hog, on 2013-September-11, 19:04, said:
I would not bid on this hand. However I would certainly double! 
But double IS a bid(!)
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Posted 2013-September-16, 02:04
PhilG007, on 2013-September-16, 01:54, said:
But double IS a bid(!)
No, it is a call, not a bid - that was his point.
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Posted 2013-September-16, 06:09
In my view this is a clear-cut pass.
Make the clubs Jxx and I would probably still pass, although it's now close.
I realise that we might occasionally miss a game by not doubling, but it's much more likely that neither side can make anything, or that we suffer a heavy penalty.
Make the clubs Jxx and I would probably still pass, although it's now close.
I realise that we might occasionally miss a game by not doubling, but it's much more likely that neither side can make anything, or that we suffer a heavy penalty.
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Posted 2013-September-16, 08:25
gordontd, on 2013-September-16, 02:04, said:
No, it is a call, not a bid - that was his point.
Here we go again.....splitting hairs(!)
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Posted 2013-September-16, 18:16
PhilG007, on 2013-September-16, 08:25, said:
Here we go again.....splitting hairs(!)
No, being accurate.
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