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Posted 2013-July-06, 15:08



I led ♥4 suposedly third and 5th, partner played ♥J and Zia won the Ace.

Next came ♣J, covered, dummy won the ace and partner played ♣3 (standard carding)

♠Q is played from dummy next, plan your defence.
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Posted 2013-July-06, 17:29

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Posted 2013-July-07, 01:34

My guess is that partner has ♥Q and maybe ♦J. I think our best chance to defeat this contract is ♣T or ♦J (or even the ♦Q). I'll give him some losing options by playing ♠A followed by ♠T, showing him trumps don't split. This way a possible ♣ finesse may look very attractive considering that he may still have a ♥ loser he has to get rid of.
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Posted 2013-July-07, 06:41

Win and play another spade. Seems odd that he played a trump at all, but whatever - he likes to feel his way through the first few tricks. I'm happy to draw trumps, but I do not expect him to play a second trump himself, since I'm bound to have given something away.
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Posted 2013-July-07, 10:51

I think its unlikely declarer has 3H, because it means that he would likely have Qx in D and would play low D to Q instead of pulling trumps.
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Posted 2013-July-07, 14:52

I missanalyzed this one, contract is totally safe regardless of what you do now.

I ducked (slowly) and then Zia made an interesting play I'd like you to analyce:



After winning ♠Q Zia played a diamond towards the Jack, probably he already suspects m partner is incapable of putting the queen unless he has the other 2 diamonds hidden behind another card, this play succeed just as well as any other, he cross ruffed 10 tricks quickly.

I don't remember making this play ever, but I have seen it on books, I'd like to understand it fully, what is the logic behind it?, obviously if I had ♦AQ it would fail misserably, but my partner is capable of raising with the ace for no reason, so all in all it looks like a winner...
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Posted 2013-July-07, 18:21

Looks as if you can win the first spade and switch to a diamond spot, putting Zia to a similar guess but with different information to go on.

Was there any significance to partner's club spot?
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Posted 2013-July-08, 03:57

View PostFluffy, on 2013-July-07, 14:52, said:

After winning ♠Q Zia played a diamond towards the Jack, probably he already suspects m partner is incapable of putting the queen unless he has the other 2 diamonds hidden behind another card, this play succeed just as well as any other, he cross ruffed 10 tricks quickly.

I don't remember making this play ever, but I have seen it on books, I'd like to understand it fully, what is the logic behind it?, obviously if I had ♦AQ it would fail misserably, but my partner is capable of raising with the ace for no reason, so all in all it looks like a winner...

It's only a disaster if you have ♦AQ and spades are 4-1.

He may have been trying to cater for layouts where you had ♠A10x and ♦AQ were offside. If he ruffs two clubs in dummy before drawing any more trumps, you may get a promotion. If he leads another high spade from dummy you can play a third spade, so he's off if ♦AQ are offside. If he leads a spade to the king and trumps are 4-1, he's really badly placed.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-July-08, 11:48

Couldn't North figure it out when South takes ♠A followed by ♠T? After all, South has shown ♣K and ♠A, no other honors in the black suits, and should have 10-12HCP. Depending on the information that ♥4 suggests (which has turned into ♥5 in the full hand) North could possibly reason that South has 3-5HCP in ♦, which can't be anything else than the ♦A.
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Posted 2013-July-08, 15:40

not this north, and Zia knew it
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Posted 2013-July-10, 18:12

View PostFluffy, on 2013-July-07, 14:52, said:

I missanalyzed this one, contract is totally safe regardless of what you do now.

I ducked (slowly) and then Zia made an interesting play I'd like you to analyce:



After winning ♠Q Zia played a diamond towards the Jack, probably he already suspects m partner is incapable of putting the queen unless he has the other 2 diamonds hidden behind another card, this play succeed just as well as any other, he cross ruffed 10 tricks quickly.

I don't remember making this play ever, but I have seen it on books, I'd like to understand it fully, what is the logic behind it?, obviously if I had ♦AQ it would fail misserably, but my partner is capable of raising with the ace for no reason, so all in all it looks like a winner...


How did the ♥5 and ♥4 switch hands?
Against Zia, you needed to open lead the ♥8
to have any chance of beating him.
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