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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2013-March-01, 13:24

K876
K108
K82
KJ9


AJ52
AQ9765
74
10


1-2!
2-4


lead is 3 to Q
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Posted 2013-March-01, 13:43

I'd draw trump, starting with the K to cater to the unlikely 0=4 break.

If trump are 2-2, then I advance the club 10.

I am cold if LHO rises, but he won't.

If I sense or just guess the A is onside, I pop the K. Otherwise, I duck.

Assume that RHO wins cheaply whichever card I play from dummy. Assume he returns a spade. If both follow, I am cold and playing for an overtrick, so assume LHO shows out.

I win in dummy and advance another club, intending to pitch a diamond...I can in fact pitch a diamond whether it is covered or not although I would ruff if covered, in order to play for an overtrick.

I will maybe lose 2 clubs and a diamond, but my last spade goes away on the good club in dummy.

However, this line requires that I have enough entries to enjoy the last club, and I need a late trump entry, so 2-2 seems necessary. I might adopt the same line if the heart J appears at trick 2 on my left, since few players would be good enough to falsecard with Jx(x) after leading a stiff spade, but I'm not sure I buy the idea that he'd lead a stiff spade with 1=1 majors.

If trump are not 2-2, and assuming not 4=0 (such that I have a loser in trump...when I'd need extra luck), I pull trump and cash the top spades, ending in hand. Assuming 1=4 spades, I exit the last spade. I am cold if RHO holds the club A. I also make if LHO holds both minor Aces.

Edit: duh...of course, the play in trump is to start with a top honour from hand: sorry about that. I maintain the rest of my post, and will try to cut down on multi-tasking...I'm obviously not very good at it
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Posted 2013-March-01, 13:44

I will draw all the trumps beginning with the Q, catering to any 4-0 break, and run the 10. RHO is endplayed. If he returns a club, I can ruff and cross to the K in dummy to discard my diamond on the K, losing one trick in each non-trump suit. If he returns a diamond I only lose 1 diamond trick. If he returns a low spade, I let it run to the K8, and if LHO shows out I can win cheaply. If LHO plays a spade I'm cold anyway. If he returns the 10 of spades I win the king, and if LHO shows out I run the 8.

Edit: never mind I forgot he can play the queen. The above line wins when RHO has the A.
this is really complicated... -_-
I believe mikeh's line is right, upon further reflection.
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Posted 2013-March-01, 14:05

Always interesting to read your play analysis, but I've a question:

View Postmikeh, on 2013-March-01, 13:43, said:

I'd draw trump, starting with the K to cater to the unlikely 0=4 break.

Why don't you start with Q to protect against any 4-0 break? Is it because you are convinced that LHO started with single ?
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Posted 2013-March-01, 14:07

View PostLord Molyb, on 2013-March-01, 13:44, said:

I will draw all the trumps beginning with the Q, catering to any 4-0 break, and run the 10. RHO is endplayed. If he returns a club, I can ruff and cross to the K in dummy to discard my diamond on the K, losing one trick in each non-trump suit. If he returns a diamond I only lose 1 diamond trick. If he returns a low spade, I let it run to the K8, and if LHO shows out I can win cheaply. If LHO plays a spade I'm cold anyway. If he returns the 10 of spades I win the king, and if LHO shows out I run the 8.

Edit: never mind I forgot he can play the queen. The above line wins when RHO has the A.
If he has the queen... (writing in)


The above line wins in most cases.

If he returns you discard a - you are going to lose 2 and 1.

When I play trumps I would play 10 if LHO shows out cash trumps and duck a - the same end play.

If LHO has 4 then it becomes interesting and I suppose you will need A in place because if spades are 4-1 with RHO and A in him as well you are down.

Anyway I will play a club to the 10 and then expass the honour if spades are 4-1 :) Might consider a squeez as well depending on how it turns out :)
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Posted 2013-March-01, 14:50

View Postlesh, on 2013-March-01, 14:07, said:

The above line wins in most cases.

If he returns you discard a - you are going to lose 2 and 1.

When I play trumps I would play 10 if LHO shows out cash trumps and duck a - the same end play.

If LHO has 4 then it becomes interesting and I suppose you will need A in place because if spades are 4-1 with RHO and A in him as well you are down.

Anyway I will play a club to the 10 and then expass the honour if spades are 4-1 :) Might consider a squeez as well depending on how it turns out :)


Thank you. My eyes can stop bleeding now.
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