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Posted 2013-February-06, 17:45

AKQ93
KQ8
2
K873

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6
AJ9732
AK1093
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After a relay auction in which South's exact shape is known, and East has doubled clubs twice for the lead, you get a low club lead against 6H. East wins with the Queen and plays a low spade. How do you play?
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Posted 2013-February-06, 18:00

low , ruff...A and back to other hand until trumps are gone...I play for the 4/3 split in spades...

The cross ruff seems to require 2/2 trump split if I am thinking correctly...so this should give better odds?
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Posted 2013-February-06, 18:03

Well something bad must have happened, because the obvious line(to me) looks very unlikely to fail.

K of hearts(if both follow, than J, else take Q), diamond ace, ruff diamond, KQ of spades pitching 2 diamonds, back to hand with club ruff and pull any outstanding trump.
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Posted 2013-February-06, 18:21

View PostRunemPard, on 2013-February-06, 18:00, said:

low , ruff...A and back to other hand until trumps are gone...I play for the 4/3 split in spades...

The cross ruff seems to require 2/2 trump split if I am thinking correctly...so this should give better odds?


You can easilly improve this playing AK before ruffing, wich should tell you if 4/3 is coming or not.
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Posted 2013-February-06, 18:23

View PostFluffy, on 2013-February-06, 18:21, said:

You can easilly improve this playing AK before ruffing, wich should tell you if 4/3 is coming or not.


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Posted 2013-February-08, 03:14

Spades were 2-5 and hearts were 3-1. I won the spade in dummy, cashed the KQ of hearts, ruffed a diamond, then played for 4-3 spades, so I went 1 down.
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Posted 2013-March-02, 05:08

View Postmr1303, on 2013-February-06, 17:45, said:

AKQ93
KQ8
2
K873

Opposite
6
AJ9732
AK1093
5

After a relay auction in which South's exact shape is known, and East has doubled clubs twice for the lead, you get a low club lead against 6H. East wins with the Queen and plays a low spade. How do you play?


From the low club lead I assume he has 3 cards. Then 6 2 2 ruffs and 2 are 12 tricks. Win, cash one if everyone follows, then cash one , to the ace small ruff, ruff, ruff, or ruff if LHO has 2, draw trumps.

If trumps are 4-0 cash two more , to the ace, ruff, cash the K, ruff, draw trumps.
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Posted 2013-March-02, 10:08

IMO it's better to play on than . Even if they don't split, you might still survive (for example, if East has a singleton , he may be unable to overruff the 8).

So the plan is to ruff two in dummy. Or maybe 3 . Depends on whether the second will cash.

So you can attempt to cash a in the second trick, which will either provide a discard (in case they don't split well) or give you
some information about East's distribution. If everything goes well, you will score 6 and either
- 5 tricks and 1, or
- 4 and 2.
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Posted 2013-March-02, 12:08

View PostAlik1974, on 2013-March-02, 10:08, said:

IMO it's better to play on than . Even if they don't split, you might still survive (for example, if East has a singleton , he may be unable to overruff the 8).

So the plan is to ruff two in dummy. Or maybe 3 . Depends on whether the second will cash.

So you can attempt to cash a in the second trick, which will either provide a discard (in case they don't split well) or give you
some information about East's distribution. If everything goes well, you will score 6 and either
- 5 tricks and 1, or
- 4 and 2.

this line seems the most promising that spade return at trick 2 should look ominous virtually
guaranteeing the suit wont break 43 ---rho had a much safer looking trump or diamond return.

BTW include the bidding when possible becasue many defensive ideas are based on the known
distribution in declarers hand:))))))))))))))))))))
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