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#1 User is offline   pigpenz 

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Posted 2013-January-15, 20:40

had this one come up in GNT game yesterday was
curious what other would do with this gem.

I passed and the 9♣was the setting trick for a whole 3 imp gain
just a few more gray hairs added
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Posted 2013-January-17, 18:23

4♦?
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Posted 2013-January-17, 19:47

You have to pass but I agree it sucks.
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Posted 2013-January-18, 02:36

 JLOGIC, on 2013-January-17, 19:47, said:

You have to pass but I agree it sucks.


Agree 100%
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Posted 2013-January-18, 03:09

call me chicken but I would bid 4♦ at IMPs (my partner can't be 18-19 balanced if that makes a difference). This is possibly just bad bridge since I seem to be in the minority (or others where preempted by Jlogic answer :)). I have always underestimated the value of 9 of clubs ...
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Posted 2013-January-18, 13:14

Perhaps its my own dataset but whenever I pass with this hand type it almost always works out well, even though I sweat it at. I have a lot outside of spades and I'd be pretty surprised if they wrapped it.

+200 happens about 6 in 10 times and you sometimes get a 500 when declarer gets handlocked. I'm mostly worried about the min negative x when partner has a void spade - that is the danger scenario.
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Posted 2013-January-18, 13:24

To me, LOTT says that this is almost certainly a clear pass. Of course, LOTT doesn't have to be right but I fear bidding may often turn +200 or possible 500 into the same minus.
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