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+200 for defending 3♠ undoubled was a pretty common result, but obviously EW could have done better. Any blame, or just one of those things?
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Posted 2012-December-14, 08:32
+200 for defending 3♠ undoubled was a pretty common result, but obviously EW could have done better. Any blame, or just one of those things?
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Posted 2012-December-14, 10:06
what else do you suggest? I mean, seriously, how can either EW do anything?
Imo, anyone who suggests that either should do anything is a pure result merchant.
Imo, anyone who suggests that either should do anything is a pure result merchant.
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Posted 2012-December-14, 12:48
I agree, but there was a dissenting opinion, hence the question.
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Posted 2012-December-14, 13:34
Did someone really suggest that East should double? IMO, he is at least a king short of a double.
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Posted 2012-December-14, 14:46
What can East or West do legitimately?
The only way to get to a better place would be for South to panic and bid a round suit.
Preempts work....
The only way to get to a better place would be for South to panic and bid a round suit.
Preempts work....
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Posted 2012-December-14, 14:57
ArtK78, on 2012-December-14, 13:34, said:
Did someone really suggest that East should double? IMO, he is at least a king short of a double.
Well he does have 3 potentially nice tens...but yeah..agreed completely and I while I am certainly aggressive competing against preempts, doubling here seems quite wrong although, of course, like any dubious action on hands like this, could work out but seems quite anti-percentage.
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Posted 2012-December-14, 15:13
If I was east I would double with a queen more. With a jack more I might or might not depending on vul and opponents. With this hand I wouldn't. Damn
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Posted 2012-December-14, 15:19
Looks very normal
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Posted 2012-December-15, 02:32
East certainly doesn't have enough to intervene directly over the preempt.
West knows that at most South has only 1 ♠. As such, South has to have a monster to make any move over 3 ♠. So South is still capable of having a lot more than was actually held.
Double in the pass out seat would be takeout. Bidding 4 ♦ on a 6 card broken suit with red pockets is a complete shot in the dark. You might make 130, but you'll also frequently pickup -200, -500, or -800.
The only sane course is for West to pass and let North/South struggle.
West knows that at most South has only 1 ♠. As such, South has to have a monster to make any move over 3 ♠. So South is still capable of having a lot more than was actually held.
Double in the pass out seat would be takeout. Bidding 4 ♦ on a 6 card broken suit with red pockets is a complete shot in the dark. You might make 130, but you'll also frequently pickup -200, -500, or -800.
The only sane course is for West to pass and let North/South struggle.
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Posted 2012-December-15, 03:06
IMO,it is always a good option for West seat in this case.there is nothing to comment on this hand.
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Posted 2012-December-15, 08:37
The traveller is probably pretty revealing about the quality of the game. The most common result was 3♠ down two or three undoubled, but 3♠ was doubled once, 4♠ was down four undoubled, and one EW pair played in 4♦. Go figure.
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Posted 2012-December-15, 09:07
daveharty, on 2012-December-15, 08:37, said:
and one EW pair played in 4♦. Go figure.
Do they have a misunderstanding about the hesitation in the 4♦ overcall?
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Posted 2012-December-16, 03:07
Dave, you have been watching too much BBO 
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Posted 2012-December-16, 03:53
cherdano, on 2012-December-15, 09:07, said:
Do they have a misunderstanding about the hesitation in the 4♦ overcall?
Would guess N opened 1♠ and the auction proceeded from there, anybody's guess where it goes at that point.
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