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#1 User is offline   benlessard 

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Posted 2012-July-24, 20:55

They didnt tell me the VUL sorry. --IMPS

(P)-P-(3C)-??

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im not 100% sure about the T of clubs.
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Posted 2012-July-24, 21:52

Looks like 3 to me....
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Posted 2012-July-24, 23:03

can still get to 3nt after 3
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Posted 2012-July-25, 00:06

3 for me. I'll raise 3 to 4 and raise 3 to 3nt.
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Posted 2012-July-25, 00:13

3 seems easy enough...there must be catch B-)...
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Posted 2012-July-25, 01:20

I think anything except than 3 is very imaginative :)
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Posted 2012-July-25, 03:57

3D. The second ever unanimous poll on these fora?
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Posted 2012-July-25, 07:46

My partner already opened his 4+H with 10 points.
That's about it for our game chances.
3D scoring better than 3C-X? Doubt it.
I Double. Partner may cringe and scramble, but
this is highly likely our shot for a big score
with no game likely.

Some just to not be UNANIMOUS.
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Posted 2012-July-25, 09:24

wrong forum
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Posted 2012-July-25, 21:08

View Postdake50, on 2012-July-25, 07:46, said:

My partner already opened his 4+H with 10 points.
That's about it for our game chances.
3D scoring better than 3C-X? Doubt it.
I Double. Partner may cringe and scramble, but
this is highly likely our shot for a big score
with no game likely.

Some just to not be UNANIMOUS.


When partner bids 3S what will you do? 3C X is for takeout.
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Posted 2012-July-26, 21:42

So what is the story? Why was this posted? 3D is 99% unanimous. Was it a UI situation?
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Posted 2012-July-27, 04:45

When I was asked ive said that I think both 3D and X are ok, however most expert here (Montreal) bid 3D.

partner hand was

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Kxxxx
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Kx

A very unlucky layout for 3D. Losing important imps in Philadelphia.

As long as responder is going to bid 4C with all 5/4,4/5 and 5/5 in the majors (wich is the best way to play IMO) I think doubling has a lot going for it.
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Posted 2012-July-30, 01:28

View PostMrAce, on 2012-July-25, 01:20, said:

I think anything except than 3 is very imaginative :)


Double isn't as crazy as most people make out. Over spade bids you bid Diamonds showing a flexible hand. It doesn't show a strong one suited hand, that's what a jump to 4D or 5D shows. If partner jumps to 4S then we know we want to play a game - maybe 5D isn't the game we want to play - but it's the one we are getting to.

I wouldn't double (I don't think it's quite strong enough), but I wouldn't be so fast in denouncing it.
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Posted 2012-July-30, 20:00

View Postdave_w, on 2012-July-30, 01:28, said:

Double isn't as crazy as most people make out. Over spade bids you bid Diamonds showing a flexible hand. It doesn't show a strong one suited hand, that's what a jump to 4D or 5D shows. If partner jumps to 4S then we know we want to play a game - maybe 5D isn't the game we want to play - but it's the one we are getting to.

I wouldn't double (I don't think it's quite strong enough), but I wouldn't be so fast in denouncing it.


X is poor given that the hand is not strong enough to bid Ds after a S response.
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Posted 2012-July-31, 00:55

View Postdave_w, on 2012-July-30, 01:28, said:

Double isn't as crazy as most people make out. Over spade bids you bid Diamonds showing a flexible hand. It doesn't show a strong one suited hand, that's what a jump to 4D or 5D shows. If partner jumps to 4S then we know we want to play a game - maybe 5D isn't the game we want to play - but it's the one we are getting to.

I wouldn't double (I don't think it's quite strong enough), but I wouldn't be so fast in denouncing it.


Of course double makes more sense if 4/3 is available to show 1 suited strong hand. But i am not quite sure this is available for everyone due to leaping michaels or similar variations.

But i agree that ruling out the DBL the way i did was overstatement/mistake/or whatever you want to call it. :)
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Posted 2012-July-31, 01:38

View Postbenlessard, on 2012-July-27, 04:45, said:

A very unlucky layout for 3D. Losing important imps in Philadelphia.


Losing Imps to whom? If it is IMP Pairs, I doubt you lost IMPs to any pair in contention. In a K.O., if the other player bid something other than 3D you figure to beat that team anyway. Maybe it blew a short swiss match to an inferior team.
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Posted 2012-August-01, 02:11

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-July-31, 01:38, said:

Losing Imps to whom? If it is IMP Pairs, I doubt you lost IMPs to any pair in contention. In a K.O., if the other player bid something other than 3D you figure to beat that team anyway. Maybe it blew a short swiss match to an inferior team.


It may be that the 3 call was not chosen at all tables.
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