[Phil]

r/w

♠73 ♥K53 ♦AT752 ♣KQJ

(1♠*) - 2♠ - (3N) - 4♥
(pass) - pass - (4♠) - ?

[billw55]

I would have asked about 3NT. I still do so now, although pass is probable in any case.

[Phil]

 billw55, on 2012-May-14, 11:24, said:

I would have asked about 3NT. I still do so now, although pass is probable in any case.

You would received the answer "natural".

Also, I should have mentioned that 1♠ is 4+ and limited to 16 if it matters.

[MrAce]

I am definetely bidding, probably 4 NT in case pd has 5-6.

I know i have a balanced hand but pd doesnt, he made his bid r/w and i have all the help he needs. Worst case scenario will be we will go down 1 when +300 was available. I dont expect to take 6 tricks in defense even if pd has xx ♠ and stiff ♦ and we manage to give him 2 ruffs we may end up getting 5 tricks only. Not neccesarilly but most of the time we get 6 tricks in defense, we will make 5 level contract. I can see easily it can be 8-9 tricks for them and 11 tricks for us.

[akhare]

Is the 1♠ = 4+ part of a canape style? RHO's 3N is interesting, assuming they had a choice of 3♥ or equivalent to show a good raise of ♠ (and presumably other forcing bids as well).

At this vulnerability, it's tempting to bid on, but what is pard's style for Michaels at these colors?

[quiddity]

Agree with 4NT, and cuebid 5♦ over 5♣. If partner bids 5♦ instead I guess I'll pass.
I suspect the 3NT bidder was just messing around.

[kfay]

I guess I'd double. I think 11 tricks are possible, but I don't have enough to bid on my own. Maybe partner can still act.

[rmnka447]

I'll DBL. Partner has to have some cards to Michaels R/W at IMPs.

Partner heard my raise but may not know if it was based on distribution or values. I think the DBL tells it's on values.

If partner is more distributional -- 6-5 or 6-6 -- partner can bid on.

[nige1]

 Phil, on 2012-May-14, 10:10, said:

r/w ♠73 ♥K53 ♦AT752 ♣KQJ
(1♠*) - 2♠ - (3N) - 4♥
(pass) - pass - (4♠) - ?

IMO 4N = 10. 5♦ = 9, Pass = 6, 4N is a slight underbid, Can vulnerable partner have less than

• ♠ xx ♥ AQJxx ♦ x ♣Axxxx? or if you believe RHO then
• ♠- ♥ Jxxxxx ♦- ♣ xxxxxxxx?

[c_corgi]

Can I have the 4H bid back and double instead?

[Phil]

RHO really seemed like he was jokering here. I'm not sure what happens if I double but my RHO said I tanked for 2 1/2 minutes before bidding 5♥. Partner held void QJTxxx QJ Axxxx (is it clear to pull? Probably so). This hand had an odd symmetry to the other one with the 5-1 diamonds, and 4-1 clubs so RHO's tomfoolery stopped his partner from competing to 5♠.

[Phil]

By the way, wouldn't this make sense over 3N:

4♣ - p/c.
4♦ - good heart hand.
4♥ - competing.

[Fluffy]

Yeah Phil they make sense, hope you rememebr them the next time you get this bidding

I also wonder if there was way for stablishing a forcing pass wich I would love to make now. There doesn't seem to


If partner has clubs we make 11 tricks and maybe 12. If partner has diamonds they make a lot of tricks anyway so why not bid on? I always lose 7 IMPs for bidding on on this situations.

4NT sounds like it.

[bluecalm]

Just don't pass, lol.
It seems like 5 level contract is making often enough and they won't go down too much in 4S (or even somehow make it). I bid 4N hoping it has "pick your long suit" implications.