[Gerben47]

Probably yes, I have not seen any case where they passed out 1red - 1higher suit. The problem is if partner can have as much as 9 and you have 14 unbalanced then either you might have a good fit or you would not like to play in that specific suit in the first place.

Gerben

[pbleighton]

Chamaco -

If you play 1H-1S as unlimited, when the auction goes 1H-1S-3C, what does 3C promise? How about 1H-1S-2NT?

Gerben - what does these auctions promise when 1H-1S is limited to 9 hcp?

Peter

[Gerben47]

Opener bids as if he was playing a standard system and makes the bid he would make if he would remove a king from his hand.

1H - 1S - 3C shows a BIG 2-suiter, for example

x
AKJxx
Kx
AKQxx

2NT and 3H can be used to sort out the BW Death hand (too strong for a NF bid and 3-card support)

[Chamaco]

pbleighton, on Nov 24 2004, 03:19 PM, said:

Chamaco -

If you play 1H-1S as unlimited, when the auction goes 1H-1S-3C, what does 3C promise? How about 1H-1S-2NT?

1H-1S
3C = natural, distributional reverse (usually 55, and about 5.5 losers), but not lots of hcp, non forcing opposite a yarborough.

Big hands will go via 2C artificial rebid, which wil be 2-way showing either:
- minimum with clubs or
- 16+

Responder bids 2D with any 8+ hand, bypasses 2D making a weak bid (prefernce to pener or suit rebid) when holding less than 8 hcp.

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1H-1S
2NT

can be played as strong support for spades (usually with side singleton or with extra hcp).
This is better that having to show good support at higher level because 1S response may have a yarborough.

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As an altrnative it is possible to play the Kaplan inversion of 1NT forcing and 1S:

1H-1S is forcing one round and denies 5 cards in spades. If opener now now bids 1NT he shows 4 spades.

1H:1NT shows 5+ spades

[pbleighton]

Gerben -

Will you be putting your version of F-N on your website

Peter

[pbleighton]

Chamaco writes:
"Big hands will go via 2C artificial rebid, which wil be 2-way showing either:
- minimum with clubs or
- 16+

Responder bids 2D with any 8+ hand, bypasses 2D making a weak bid (prefernce to pener or suit rebid) when holding less than 8 hcp."

Don't you need to revise the point count here to something like the strong option being 20+ and the conditionally GF 2D responder bid being 5+?

Peter

[Chamaco]

pbleighton, on Nov 25 2004, 05:06 AM, said:

Don't you need to revise the point count here to something like the strong option being 20+ and the conditionally GF 2D responder bid being 5+?

My view is that if opener has a semiGF hand he will keep bidding open after the weak rebid by responder (<8 hcp).

Eg
1H:1S
2C (2-way) :2S (natural signoff, < 8 hcp)
?

Something like:
2NT: strong (semi) balanced, 20+
3C/3H: natural offer of signoff , no spade tolerance
3D: (4sf, keeps bidding open opposite a weak hand, promises a semigf hand)
3S: invitational, if responder is alive he shd bid on.

[PrecisionL]

Gerben47, on 2004-November-18, 09:06, said:

In a recent tournament I played that system and it is not completely trivial to fill in the blanks.For example: How do you continue after 1♣ - weak response? What do you do with the 18-20 balanced hand? (1♣ - 1x - 1NT = 15 - 17 balanced)

Balanced 19-20 hands open 1♣ and rebid 2NT. The 1NT rebid is 15-18.

Unbalanced hands with 4+♦ and 18+ hcp open 1♦. According to Bill Jacobs' book: Fantunes Revealed, 2012.


Edited: 7/6/17 Nightmare uses 1♦ - 1Y - 1NT for the balanced 18-20 hcp hand (1♦ is forcing with 4+♦ & 15+ HCP).