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#21 User is offline   aguahombre 

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Posted 2012-March-12, 21:14

So, my dislike of opening this hand was accidentally a good thing. Or, maybe it is just "resulting"....based on years of results.
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Posted 2012-March-13, 01:09

Play 1m-2M as 6M invitational and you won't have guessing problems.
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Posted 2012-March-13, 02:11

View PostPoky, on 2012-March-13, 01:09, said:

Play 1m-2M as 6M invitational and you won't have guessing problems.

And partner guesses the diamond fit?
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Posted 2012-March-13, 03:18

View PostPoky, on 2012-March-13, 01:09, said:

Play 1m-2M as 6M invitational and you won't have guessing problems.

What, a hand that pretty much doesn't exist as a passed hand ?
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Posted 2012-March-15, 12:52

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-March-12, 01:16, said:

*with kenrexford voice*: 3S should be a fit jump showing 6 spades and a diamond fit right?

I would probably just bid 4D assuming 3H is invitational and natural and not a splinter. I do not think 3S should be what I said since I might bid 7-4 in the majors like that with bad spades and good hearts but it's an interesting thought.


Good voice, but do you really want that in your head?

That said, I think 3 has to be right on this hand. With 7/4 and garbage spades, the hand you are concerned about, why not just 2 (P-1-1-2-2)? With what hand are you not oipening 1 but now insistingt on your suit when partner rebids his own? If that hand might possibly exist, play 2 making 4 once in a blue-friggin'-moon but have no problem with this much more common problem. That is, if you do not open 2 with this hand.


For me, though, I would normally make a flower bid as others do (P-1-2), usually a 5-piece in spades.
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Posted 2012-March-15, 16:23

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-March-12, 18:01, said:

Yes, but 4D shows a much better hand than 3D, so you risk missing game in general by bidding 3D instead of 4D.


I use 3d as a means of telling p I am near max for my passed hand
with the hopes we can reach 3n or higher. I use 4d as primarily
a preemptive raise with the idea that if we are making anything
it is probably 5d (or more in a suit somewhere)--I use 3d (while
wishing I could bid something else) as a stronger (hcp wise) hand
than 4d (it may or may not be less distributional than 4d).
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Posted 2012-March-16, 02:42

View PostPoky, on 2012-March-13, 01:09, said:

Play 1m-2M as 6M invitational and you won't have guessing problems.


Most people who plays 1m-2M invitational, including me, still plays it fit+natural by passed hand and/or in competition.
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