[BunnyGo]

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Congratulations on the life master promotion.

[jillybean]

BunnyGo, on 2011-November-29, 09:48, said:

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Congratulations on the life master promotion.

LOL

& thanks, I will pass your congrats on to my partner.

[awm]

For what it's worth, partner and I bid this hand as:

1♣ - 3♥ - 3N - 4♥
5♥ - PA - 6♥ - PA
7♣ - PA - 7♦ - PA
7♠ - All Pass

The 1♣ opening was strong and artificial (16+ unbalanced or 17+ balanced). Opener thought that he should've bid 7♥ to offer a clear choice between 7♠/7NT; responder felt he couldn't bid 7NT on the actual auction because he wasn't sure opener's clubs were 100% solid nor that opener's diamond control couldn't be a void (but he would bid 7NT over 7♥). In any case, 7♠ was enough for us to win the board (6♠ at the other table).

I agree that over 2♥, responder should make a negative double. Over 3♥ things become trickier though, because opener is fairly likely to bypass 3NT when he doesn't hold four spades (a heart stop for opener seems rather unlikely, considering).

[jillybean]

whereagles, on 2011-November-29, 08:18, said:

How about 4NT? If pard has 2 aces, bid 7NT. If not, just settle for 6C.

4N - swish?

[whereagles]

If you say so

[jeffford76]

whereagles, on 2011-November-29, 08:18, said:

How about 4NT? If pard has 2 aces, bid 7NT. If not, just settle for 6C.

This is in fact the auction my partnership had: 4NT (specific aces) - 5NT (2) - 7NT.

[jmcw]

I consider the N hand way to good for a non forcing opening, so its 2♣ for me. Assuming East still bids ♥, South will immediately recognize that slam needs to be reached.
Depending on methods, N/S need to drive to 7NT at BAM, but 7♠ may get a 1/2.

[rogerclee]

What were the 4N bidders going to do after their partner showed just the HA or SA?

[jillybean]

whereagles, on 2011-November-29, 08:18, said:

How about 4NT? If pard has 2 aces, bid 7NT. If not, just settle for 6C.

jeffford76, on 2011-December-05, 15:04, said:

This is in fact the auction my partnership had: 4NT (specific aces) - 5NT (2) - 7NT.

I could not risk 4N. Undiscussed, it may have been passed.

[sathyab]

Cascade, on 2011-November-28, 12:06, said:

7♠

unless you can made an exclusion bid - perhaps 6♥

or 5NT is Grand Slam force and your methods can identify one top honour.

We had never had a discussion about such sequences (unsurprisingly), so no idea what 6h would have been.

At our table it went 1♣ - (2 ♥) - X - (5♥). But partner did bid 6♥; I bid 6♠ as I had no idea that he had such a rock-crusher there. He said that once he committed our side to 6♠ and I was looking the ♠A, I should have bid 7♠. That's quite a good point he makes. Isn't it quite possible that the 5♥ bidder may have the ♠Ace and waiting precisely for a bid like 7♠, while 6♥ involves partner ?

[jeffford76]

rogerclee, on 2011-December-05, 18:30, said:

What were the 4N bidders going to do after their partner showed just the HA or SA?

I would have bid 6C / 7C. I realized maybe we should be playing in spades, but I figured if I started low there would be enough competition that I might not get to ask at all, and I wanted to get level right.

[JLOGIC]

5H seems really clear...if partner has the ace of spades he will bid 5S. EZ game.