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#1 User is offline   sathyab 

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Posted 2011-July-15, 22:36



Interesting hand from this evening's JEC match.

T1: ♠Q, 8, A, 4
T2: ♥J, ?

Plan your play.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 09:29

This is not really about crossruff, but about setting up a club or heart trick.

Start with

T2 ♥A
T3 ♦J-x-x-x
T4 ♣A
T5 ♣ ruff
T6 ♠ ruff and watch what LHO plays on this turn.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 09:31

This looks a lot more involved than a 'crossruff'.

Going to get some coffee and noodle this.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 09:49

View Postwclass___, on 2011-July-16, 09:29, said:

This is not really about crossruff, but about setting up a club or heart trick.

Start with

T2 ♥A
T3 ♦J-x-x-x
T4 ♣A
T5 ♣ ruff
T6 ♠ ruff and watch what LHO plays on this turn.

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Posted 2011-July-16, 09:54

View Postwclass___, on 2011-July-16, 09:29, said:

This is not really about crossruff, but about setting up a club or heart trick.

Start with

T2 ♥A
T3 ♦J-x-x-x
T4 ♣A
T5 ♣ ruff
T6 ♠ ruff and watch what LHO plays on this turn.

Yes, there's more to it than cross ruff. I chose the title somewhat loosely rather than saying 'cross ruff/suit establishment'. BTW, depending on whether or not LHO covers the ♦J, there may be variations which are closer to a pure cross-ruff than suit establishment.

At T6, LHO follows with the ♠J.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 10:00

Some preliminary themes that should be considered are:

- crossruff
- suit establishment / partial trump drawing
- knockout squeeze (thats why I need my coffee)!
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Posted 2011-July-16, 11:36

View Postsathyab, on 2011-July-16, 09:54, said:

At T6, LHO follows with the ♠J.


Well, it doesn't really matter what he discards, if he has ♦Qxx you will be able to pull it home anyway.

This time you just ruff ♣, if they are 4-3 you establish ♣ trick, if they are not 4-3, then you can establish ♥ (they are 3-3) or just ruff all of your ♣ in hand.
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Posted 2011-July-16, 16:48

knockout squeeze? ok I stopped reading there :)
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Posted 2011-July-19, 05:54

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knockout squeeze? ok I stopped reading there :)

well d'uh, it was the end of his post... :P
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Posted 2011-July-19, 09:08

View PostFree, on 2011-July-19, 05:54, said:

well d'uh, it was the end of his post... :P


No KO squeeze I can see. I really do want to dig into this one, but there's too many permutations early on.

I'll start ♥K, ♣A, ♣ruff, ♠ruff, ♣ ruff.

Does RHO follow?
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Posted 2011-July-20, 15:41

View Postwclass___, on 2011-July-16, 11:36, said:

Well, it doesn't really matter what he discards, if he has ♦Qxx you will be able to pull it home anyway.

This time you just ruff ♣, if they are 4-3 you establish ♣ trick, if they are not 4-3, then you can establish ♥ (they are 3-3) or just ruff all of your ♣ in hand.


Yes, your line will work. But I am curious, why did you choose ♦J from your hand, which will require you to pull one more trump when LHO does not cover, rather than a ♦ to dummy's T ?
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Posted 2011-July-21, 07:59

View Postsathyab, on 2011-July-20, 15:41, said:

Yes, your line will work. But I am curious, why did you choose ♦J from your hand, which will require you to pull one more trump when LHO does not cover, rather than a ♦ to dummy's T ?



Other spot cards in dummy are weak and i am going to ruff some ♣ in hand. Here is one obvious situation:

you want to ruff ♣ high and finesse ♦Q.
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