What is 3h here?
#1
Posted 2011-April-18, 09:50
5-5 gf?
splinter long cl and short h?
5-4 invite?
other?
1d=1s
2c=3h?
#4
Posted 2011-April-18, 11:01
#5
Posted 2011-April-18, 11:18
-P.J. Painter.
#6
Posted 2011-April-18, 12:23
splinter long cl and short h
#7
Posted 2011-April-18, 12:57
If you wanted to show a 5-5 GF, just bid 2H! ( 4th Suit GF ) and then 3H again.
If you had invitational values and a 5s/4h hand, I think you have to roll it into a 2NT rebid:
1D - 1S
2C - 2NT
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This is probably another advertisement to use XYZ .
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#8
Posted 2011-April-18, 14:58
Taken directly from the Bridge World web site.
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After a one-level new-suit response and openers simple new-suit rebid:
(a) two notrump or three of any suit previously bid is invitational;
(b) a fourth-suit bid that is either a reverse or a three-level bid is forcing to game;
(c ) a fourth-suit non-reverse at the two level is [default:] forcing for one round, and responder may pass if opener bids two of responders first suit, two notrump, or a non-reverse minimum number in one of his own suits { forcing to game [leaf] };
(d) a bid one level above a not-game-forcing fourth-suit bid is natural (five-five or more) and game-forcing (to invite with the same shape, responder bids the fourth suit cheaply twice);
(e) a bid one level above a game-forcing fourth-suit bid is a splinter;
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So, for the example given here:
1D - 1S
2C - 3H jump = natural 5/5, GF [ see (d) above ]
And that is because the following is forcing 1 round only ( F1 ) and NOT a GF:
1D - 1S
2C - 2H! ( F1 ) [ see ( c ) above ] .
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#9
Posted 2011-April-18, 15:35
But, discussion is key. And, discussion with everyone remembering the discussion also is key.
-P.J. Painter.
#10
Posted 2011-April-18, 15:47
#11
Posted 2011-April-18, 16:49
A) go to the 4-level or
B) jump-reverse, if possible .
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So for the given auction:
1D - 1S
2C - ??
2NT/3C/3D/3S = invitational
3H jump = 5/5 GF
4H double-jump = Splinter for ♣
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The folowing would be a reverse auction:
1D - 1H
2C - ??
2NT/3C/3D/3H = invitational
3S jump-reverse = Splinter for ♣
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#12
Posted 2011-April-19, 02:07
#14
Posted 2011-April-23, 07:20
#17
Posted 2011-April-24, 04:30
Personally I prefer it to show club-support with GF. (In the context, that 2♣ guarantees four.)
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
#18
Posted 2011-April-26, 07:10
Besides, if this is invitational, you won't have good enough suits to do it as much as you'd like to.

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