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Several lines Which is the best

#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2010-November-18, 02:16



West leads the Ace of hearts and plays another to your King.

You cash the Ace of spades and all follow. What is the best line for 12 tricks?
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Posted 2010-November-18, 02:32

After a quick look it appears that cashing AK and ruffing a club high is best, working whenever clubs are 42 or 33.
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Posted 2010-November-18, 07:00

View Postdboxley, on 2010-November-18, 02:32, said:

After a quick look it appears that cashing AK and ruffing a club high is best, working whenever clubs are 42 or 33.

After drawing the last trump and cashing ♣AK you reach this position.

If the ♣Q dropped, you're home.
If the ♣ are 3-3 you ruff a round of ♣ and you are home, but the problem is, that this does not work if the ♣ are 4-2, because you only have 1 entry (♠K) left to reach the ♣ so you can't ruff a 2nd time and reach the remaining ♣ to get rid of you ♦ loser.
You can try a ruffing finesse against West, but then you would lose to East's Qxx.

So we have to ask ourself, if finessing the Q♣ is a better plan.
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Posted 2010-November-18, 07:39

View PosthotShot, on 2010-November-18, 07:00, said:

After drawing the last trump and cashing ♣AK you reach this position.

That's not what dboxley was suggesting. The sequence is:
♠A, ♣AK, club ruff high, ♠K, club ruff, spade to the 5.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-November-18, 08:02

View Postdboxley, on 2010-November-18, 02:32, said:

After a quick look it appears that cashing AK and ruffing a club high is best, working whenever clubs are 42 or 33.



View Postgnasher, on 2010-November-18, 07:39, said:

The sequence is: ♠A, ♣AK, club ruff high, ♠K, club ruff, spade to the 5.


Thank you for the translation, this solves the problem.
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Posted 2010-November-18, 08:09

Agree with dboxley and Gnasher.
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Posted 2010-November-18, 11:14

play for 4-2 or better ♣ this requires that you ruff the 3rd♣ with the Q b4 using the K ♠ as an entry to ruff the 4th ♣
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Posted 2010-November-18, 14:00

This was what I tried, going off when East ruffed the second club. I was wondering if there was a better line out there, or if I was just unlucky.
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Posted 2010-November-18, 14:12

View Postmr1303, on 2010-November-18, 14:00, said:

This was what I tried, going off when East ruffed the second club. I was wondering if there was a better line out there, or if I was just unlucky.

No this is a pedestrian hand. You were just unlucky.
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