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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2010-November-16, 09:47



This is EAST, not West.

IMPs, short matches

1. What is your call over 2♥?

2.
Spoiler


3.
Spoiler


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Posted 2010-November-16, 10:04

at the table i would probably have bid 4N initially, but I always overbid these hands.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 10:21

View Postphil_20686, on 2010-November-16, 10:04, said:

at the table i would probably have bid 4N initially, but I always overbid these hands.


More than you think, since we play 4N as 4 ace blackwood.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 10:23

You have the hand as West with N deaing, so my technically correct answer is that I make no call because it isn't my turn yet.

Assuming I am over the 2♥ opener, I pass (reluctantly but without doubt)

Looking at the spoilers, I bid a constructive 3♦ over a reopening double, feeling I have a lot in reserve, but not liking the xx in hearts and LHO's failure to raise, both suggesting that partner has heart length.

If he bids 3N over my constructive 3[diamonds), I think I have to try for something more.

Imagine Axx AJx Kxx AJxx, which is a good hand for him, and grand is on a hook through the preemptor's partner, so rates to be 60% or so, and passing means we're in 3N.

I think I bid 4♣, natural and forcing. If he bids 4[diamonds]or 4♠ I'll bid a natural 4N, and if he bids 4♥, I'll drive to 6♣.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 10:59

I would bid 3♦ over 2♥. 4♣ seems right after the sequence you've given.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 11:35

3D over 2H for me as well.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 11:49

I'd pass over 2♥, just because I don't want to hear 3♠ over my 3♦ overcall... Then 4♠ over 4♣ etc.

I'd bid 3♦ as well over the Reopening Double, although I admit I was tempted by a 4N call now, lol

Over 3N I bid 4♣, unfortunately we've wrongsided both minors potentially, but I think this is worth an investigation of slam, at the very least.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 11:55

CHO - (not a regular) held this.

1. He passed over 2♥ which is reasonable, although I'd overcall.

2. He bid 3♦ over the double, although I think this he's overweight for this call too. What about 4♦?

3. He passed 3N which I consider rather unreasonable. I scored up 720 - I held QT8x AK xxxx AKJ. If he pulls to 4♣, I think we have a good shot at getting to 6.

If he overcalls initially, getting to 6 seems pretty easy.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 16:42

I would bid 4NT over the double, not sure if you'd reach 6 after that.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 19:25

I'd pass 2H hoping to show minors on the next round. Over partner's double, 3D feels weird with this nice 6-5 so I'm with Fluffy in bidding 4NT. Don't think I'd reach 6 after that too, but then again I would balance with 2NT with partner's hand.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 20:37

I can't believe people are bidding only 3♦ over the double. We have a 4-loser hand and partner has a fit and some values for us. I would bid 3♦ with a 3253 8-hcp hand, and wouldn't think of it as a dead minimum!
I would bid 3♦ over 2♥, and 4N over the double (although I wouldn't mind 4♦).
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Posted 2010-November-16, 20:51

Come to think of it, I don't like 4♦ over the double. Right siding it is important and partner's heart holding becomes vulnerable sitting on the table. I prefer 4N.
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Posted 2010-November-16, 21:27

View PostPhil, on 2010-November-16, 09:47, said:


IMPs, short matches
1. What is your call over 2♥?
2. If you pass - LHO passes and partner doubles. Now what?
3. If you pass, and partner doubles, you choose 3♦ (constructive) and partner bids 3N. Sit or pull?
IMO
  • _P = 10, 3♦ = 4.
  • 3♦ = 10, 4N = 9, 3♥ = 8, 4♥ = 7.
  • 4♣ = 10, 5♣ = 6.

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Posted 2010-November-16, 23:22

I would pass and bid 4NT over the double. 3D is a bid for Caspar Milquetoast.
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Posted 2010-November-17, 00:44

I'm bidding 3♦ over 2♥. Good things never happen when I pass these hands.
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Posted 2010-November-17, 09:52

pass; following the no preempts over a preempt principle.
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