[MickyB]

Scoring: IMP

P-P-1H-1S

Do you bid 4H, or 4C splinter?

If I can stick you with the splinter, it continues 4S on your left, passed back to you. What now?

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[aguahombre]

One thing for sure. I will never wish I had opened a weak two.

[mike777]

2s/

if i can just get past this round.

[pooltuna]

I bid 4♥ which should show this hand or equivalent

[Siegmund]

Why would I wish I had opened a weak two?

If 4C is a splinter you can consider that, but it's a little on the weak side -- and in my system, splinters arent available in this auction (we play fit-jumps once there has been an overcall.) Just 4H is fine for me.

[rogerclee]

I play that opposite a third seat opener we are never in a forcing pass for any reason, so I would just pass 4S. If I bid 4C and we were in a FP then I would definitely just double 4S, but in that case I wouldn't agree with the previous action and would have just bid 4H.

[Hanoi5]

4♥ and then double, I guess partner should/might have an idea of what I have.

[OleBerg]

aguahombre, on Aug 10 2010, 05:09 AM, said:

One thing for sure. I will never wish I had opened a weak two.

Neither would I.

I would have opened with a weak two.

[OleBerg]

Just 4♥.

Double 4♠.

[jdonn]

Yes 4♥, this hand is more about the extra trump length than the singleton club. Then double 4♠.

[Codo]

If I bid 4 ♥ I would pass 4 spade.
I may hold 2 defensive tricks, but my partner won't hold 3, else he may had doubled himself, so the gains are small.

Of course, if he leads a club from x,Axxxx,xxx,AKxx, I may regret my pass.

[Fluffy]

how many people play 4♣ splinter here, and how many play it as fit showing?

I'd bid 4♥

[the hog]

I would never have opened a weak 2. 4H and then pass.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

If 4C is a splinter, than just bid, for us 4C would be a fit-jump, so 4H it is.
You show your shape, to help p with the decision, what to do, if they compete
to 4S.

If 4S comes back, I would make a X, which has to be optional, but should
show a trump trick, together with the splinter, p has a pretty good picture, what
I have.

I would not have opned 2H, one reason the vul, the hand is slightly to weak for
a weak red. vs. green.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[MickyB]

I wasn't actually suggesting that anyone (apart from OleBerg) would open a weak two - just that you wouldn't have any decisions to make later, and that you might well have kept oppo out of spades. I am also aware that many will play this as a fit-jump.

I am mainly interested in the judgement call of, having splintered, what the right thing to do over 4♠ is.

[bluecalm]

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One thing for sure. I will never wish I had opened a weak two.

+1

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I am mainly interested in the judgement call of, having splintered, what the right thing to do over 4♠ is.

I think if you splinter then pass is in order. Your hand is for sure at lower end for splinter (if it qualifies at all) so no reason to do anything than pass imo.
I don't think anybody is seriously suggesting that partner's pass if forcing here.

If you choose 4♥ instead of splinter then x makes more sense as partne won't double himself with extras and they will be more likely to bid 4♠ on insufficient values after 4♥.

[lmilne]

4♥; X.

No guarantee of beating it, but seems like a good value bet.

[ONEferBRID]

3C! would have been a fit-jump, so 4C! should be a splinter... but you are not strong enough for that. Bid 4H ... then DBL.

[gwnn]

4♣ and 5♥ but maybe 5♥ directly is not insane.

[jdonn]

Codo, on Aug 10 2010, 04:34 AM, said:

If I bid 4 ♥ I would pass 4 spade.
I may hold 2 defensive tricks, but my partner won't hold 3, else he may had doubled himself, so the gains are small.

Of course, if he leads a club from x,Axxxx,xxx,AKxx, I may regret my pass.

Why would partner double holding 3 defensive tricks opposite a preemptive raise? I don't get it...