[shyams]

Scoring: MP

East South West North
Pass - 1♣ - Pass - 1♦
Pass - ??

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[gwnn]

2N but maybe 2N 1st round is better..

[JLOGIC]

I AM A PSYCHOPATH BUT MIKEH IS GIVING ME THE HELP I NEED

[jdonn]

3♣, a little heavy but I'm hardly close to guaranteeing game now either. Even if I thought I could I see no way to get to the right game with any consistency.

[foo]

shyams, on Aug 4 2010, 09:02 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

East South West North
Pass - 1♣ - Pass - 1♦
Pass - ??

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Any bid you make is going to be a lie to some extent

2S gets the strength right but lies about ♠ length
2N shows a flatter hand, or at least one with more scattered tricks
3C is an underbid playing SA or 2/1 without special agreements otherwise.

Dorothy Hayden Truscott used to say "tell the least lie".

In this case that means your partnership should discuss this kind of hand and agree which lie is most acceptable.

I can think of partnerships of mine where each of the choices was the preferred one for that partnership; and where what was preferred in one was the absolute worst thing to do in another.

[shyams]

The voting clearly favours not bidding 2NT

At the table, I chose 2NT. Partner had enough to raise to 3 -- I think he had all three Kings

Unfortunately, hearts were 5-4 and the Ace was over dummy's King. Down 2 before I gained the lead.

If partner declares 3NT from his side, we have 9 top tricks + the natural opening lead would have given us the 10th trick

[JLOGIC]

I AM A PSYCHOPATH BUT MIKEH IS GIVING ME THE HELP I NEED

[BudH]

shyams, on Aug 4 2010, 09:02 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

East South West North
Pass - 1♣ - Pass - 1♦
Pass - ??

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Two possibilities:

1. Jump to 3C and hope partner doesn't pass. If he bids 3D (game forcing) with no major suit stopper, you'll likely end up in 5C. If he bids 3H (showing heart stopper) then you'll still have the problem of now bidding 3NT and partner's heart stopper will be attacked.

2. Bid 1S and hope partner doesn't pass. If you play Walsh type responses, partner won't have four spades without a game forcing hand (and you may well get to a club or notrump slam if that is the case). If partner bids 1NT over 1S (which will happen often), you now bid 3NT knowing it is played from the correct side of the table in connection with partner's heart stopper.

I prefer the second option.

[aguahombre]

Yeh. I like 1S, but only because Partner, with game values, 4 spades, and longer diamonds can confidently raise to only 2S ---doesn't have to jump to four.

[655321]

I found Justin's reasoning for 2♠ in his deleted posts very convincing. 2♠ seems to have all of the benefits of 1♠, but it also gets the strength of the hand across, and it doesn't run the risk of playing in 1♠.

[BudH]

Yes, I agree. I do like 2S.

With some partners, I play 1C-1D-2S as a "reverse" with longer clubs than spades and Lebensohl applies with a game force not yet established.

[aguahombre]

alternatively the 1S rebid merely shows an unbalanced hand with longer clubs and you have agreed not to pass 1/1/1.

[P_Marlowe]

3C.

You have a 6 card suit, show the suit.

If p passes, it is unlikely, that you will miss a lot, espesially if your partnership
regular responds with 4-5 HCP to an opening bid.

With kind regards
Marlowe