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I understand you may not be overjoyed at the 4♦ call, and maybe one wouldn't open 1♣ if partner were a passed hand, but here you are. A/E please, as usual, hide answers.
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Posted 2010-July-19, 13:11
I understand you may not be overjoyed at the 4♦ call, and maybe one wouldn't open 1♣ if partner were a passed hand, but here you are. A/E please, as usual, hide answers.
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Posted 2010-July-19, 14:04
6♣ - I've already shown my ♠ values
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Posted 2010-July-19, 14:07
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and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-July-19, 14:19
agree with Han 
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
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the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
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Posted 2010-July-19, 16:00
pooltuna, on Jul 19 2010, 03:19 PM, said:
agree with Han
Me too.
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Posted 2010-July-19, 16:43
This must be a common hand type.
Last night in practice I had:
♠ AKQT
♥ -
♦ AKxxxxxx
♣ K
And the auction started
1♦ P 1♠ ...
Last night in practice I had:
♠ AKQT
♥ -
♦ AKxxxxxx
♣ K
And the auction started
1♦ P 1♠ ...
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Posted 2010-July-19, 22:58
mikeh, on Jul 19 2010, 02:11 PM, said:
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| Competent opps (expert LHO, solid rho). (P) 1♣ (x) 1♠ (3♦) 4♦ (5♦) P (P) to you...what call do you make, and why? |
I understand you may not be overjoyed at the 4♦ call, and maybe one wouldn't open 1♣ if partner were a passed hand, but here you are. A/E please, as usual, hide answers.
6c but as nonexpert I would bid 4h not 4d
i rebid 8 card suit.
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Posted 2010-July-20, 07:01
Cascade, on Jul 19 2010, 05:43 PM, said:
This must be a common hand type.
Last night in practice I had:
♠ AKQT
♥ -
♦ AKxxxxxx
♣ K
And the auction started
1♦ P 1♠ ...
Last night in practice I had:
♠ AKQT
♥ -
♦ AKxxxxxx
♣ K
And the auction started
1♦ P 1♠ ...
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isn't 4♥ exclusion in this auction?
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
George Bernard Shaw
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Posted 2010-July-20, 07:12
Interesting. Exclusion Kickup for spades; I will try that on partner next time, and hope she doesn't think I have something different.
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Posted 2010-July-20, 10:13
6♣ for me. Yes, I rate to lose a black king and a diamond more often than not, but if LHO bids 6♦ I'd like partner to know where I live so he can make an informed decision.
Also, 5♦ might very well be making.
Also, 5♦ might very well be making.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.
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Posted 2010-July-20, 10:17
Cascade, on Jul 19 2010, 05:43 PM, said:
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Three?
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Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.
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Posted 2010-July-20, 12:34
Way to go vuroth!
I do think 4D sets up a forcing pass by the way.
I do think 4D sets up a forcing pass by the way.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-July-24, 05:27
This type of hand is why I like to play non-weak 3 level Maj & 4 level Minor openers. Simply asks P to bid game if he has anything significant to add. Implies void/singleton as present here & a slam response if he holds Key cards.
Strongly preempts in any case. Ops probably don't want to play takeout dbl at 4 level even if he could without being mistaken for penalty. And if Op hands were swapped & they brave a blind 5D opener, my P gets a ton of info from that, & may still hold biddable cards for 6C, or 5S telling me to make a slam preference bid. Maybe I've had too much Goulash lately!?
In any case, the main point being I don't believe this situation could arise for me with that holding. If it did, it is quite difficult since neither P really has shape info except from ops bids. And it would depend on tournament situation what I bid. Do P & I need to stop ops from what I must see as probably good Game score in D, from seeing my own cards?
If I need the cheapest sac try, losing the least imps in order to maintain tournament position, then 5S.(And maybe P will even surprise me with 6sp OC) From what I've Seen happen (rather than counting card score) even an undbl'd slam miss by -1 Vul, just costs too much in IMPs, and Kills us if Ops would have gone down at 5D anyway, or even our own side were scoring S or C Games at every other table,etc. If we are behind and need to Gain IMPs to place well, then I'd have to go with 6C. Even tho P never heard of my Spades. At the time he bid his 1sp he may have thought I was opening short clubs with balance, since op DBL instead of overcall, suggesting He was balanced too. So maybe P has 4414~! My slam try has to be in clubs. And he's either got em or not.
Strongly preempts in any case. Ops probably don't want to play takeout dbl at 4 level even if he could without being mistaken for penalty. And if Op hands were swapped & they brave a blind 5D opener, my P gets a ton of info from that, & may still hold biddable cards for 6C, or 5S telling me to make a slam preference bid. Maybe I've had too much Goulash lately!?
In any case, the main point being I don't believe this situation could arise for me with that holding. If it did, it is quite difficult since neither P really has shape info except from ops bids. And it would depend on tournament situation what I bid. Do P & I need to stop ops from what I must see as probably good Game score in D, from seeing my own cards?
If I need the cheapest sac try, losing the least imps in order to maintain tournament position, then 5S.(And maybe P will even surprise me with 6sp OC) From what I've Seen happen (rather than counting card score) even an undbl'd slam miss by -1 Vul, just costs too much in IMPs, and Kills us if Ops would have gone down at 5D anyway, or even our own side were scoring S or C Games at every other table,etc. If we are behind and need to Gain IMPs to place well, then I'd have to go with 6C. Even tho P never heard of my Spades. At the time he bid his 1sp he may have thought I was opening short clubs with balance, since op DBL instead of overcall, suggesting He was balanced too. So maybe P has 4414~! My slam try has to be in clubs. And he's either got em or not.
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Posted 2010-July-24, 06:03
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wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2010-July-25, 21:22
Agree with Hanoi.
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Competent opps (expert LHO, solid rho). (P) 1♣ (x) 1♠ (3♦) 4♦ (5♦) P (P) to you...what call do you make, and why?