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#1 User is offline   SchTsch 

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Posted 2010-February-17, 05:56

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You open 1♠ and get 2♦ from partner showing either 4-7 with 6+ hearts or GF with 5+hearts.

For weak hand 2♥ is signoff and 2NT is invitational or better.

Do you think this hand is worth more than 2♥?
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Posted 2010-February-17, 06:03

2♥ for me.
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Posted 2010-February-17, 06:07

2NT.

At least if we can assume, that p will have his values in hearts,
if he has the weak option.

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Posted 2010-February-17, 07:05

2♥
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Posted 2010-February-17, 07:14

2♥ easy, not worth anything else
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Posted 2010-February-17, 08:18

2♥ is pretty obvious imo.
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Posted 2010-February-17, 10:18

If partner showed 4-7 with 6+ hearts and had denied a spade fit you would pass, so....
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Posted 2010-February-17, 10:19

jdonn, on Feb 17 2010, 11:18 AM, said:

If partner showed 4-7 with 6+ hearts and had denied a spade fit you would pass, so....

yup
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Posted 2010-February-17, 10:30

push with those who were xfer'd and dropped in hearts after a strong NT
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Posted 2010-February-17, 10:39

This question should not be in the A/E forum.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2010-February-18, 02:17

hanp, on Feb 17 2010, 05:39 PM, said:

This question should not be in the A/E forum.

It isn't :rolleyes:
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Posted 2010-February-18, 10:02

Seems that 2♥ is almost a clear cut bid.
We bid it at the table this way.

Partner had:


And with friendly layout we made 11 tricks.

So this game is practically unbiddable?
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Posted 2010-February-18, 11:32

Played from the side with the heart length, it seems to require a very friendly lie to make 4. Can easily see losing 3 diamonds and a heart; or two diamonds a diamond ruff and a heart; or 2 diamonds and two hearts (if all the x's are really x's).

Played from the other side, I suspect game has better chances (less likely that an early diamond attack will be successful)--but probably would still just transfer/strong NT and play 2H. Some might raise to 3 after transferring.
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