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#1 User is offline   manudude03 

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Posted 2010-January-26, 18:14



Ignoring the fact that 4S is cold, you land in 3NT by S. Play or defend? Sorry if this is too easy, but please don't use DD solvers, more fun that way.
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Posted 2010-January-26, 18:53

Maybe too easy. Hidden:

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Posted 2010-February-15, 21:55

Seems this didn't get much interest. Guess it was too easy, nigel got it right. This was a hand from a GiB tourney and I modified the contract.

Curiously, does the bot have any way of showing a decent distributional hand?

Actual result here

Triple squeeze to hold my losses to 1/3 of an imp :)
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Posted 2010-February-16, 07:27

I don't understand. Let's say E-W are clever enough to cash four clubs off the top. Now west exits with a spade. Declarer has only eight cashers. If he runs the spades, west must blank a king. But since declarer discards first, west can always keep the right one? B)
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Posted 2010-February-16, 07:29

billw55, on Feb 16 2010, 08:27 AM, said:

I don't understand. Let's say E-W are clever enough to cash four clubs off the top. Now west exits with a spade. Declarer has only eight cashers. If he runs the spades, west must blank a king. But since declarer discards first, west can always keep the right one? B)

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Posted 2010-February-16, 09:36

manudude03, on Feb 16 2010, 04:55 AM, said:

Seems this didn't get much interest.

I think it was just that Nigel had said all that there was to say.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-February-16, 10:06

cherdanno, on Feb 16 2010, 08:29 AM, said:

billw55, on Feb 16 2010, 08:27 AM, said:

I don't understand.  Let's say E-W are clever enough to cash four clubs off the top.  Now west exits with a spade.  Declarer has only eight cashers.  If he runs the spades, west must blank a king.  But since declarer discards first, west can always keep the right one?  :huh:

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I still don't get it. OK, so now south and west must bear down to two cards on the run of spades, instead of three. But south still discards first. If south keeps AQ, west keeps Kx; if south keeps A x, west keeps the K.

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Posted 2010-February-16, 10:15

I'm still trying to work out how SOUTH became declarer in Spades. :huh:
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Posted 2010-February-16, 10:26

billw55, on Feb 16 2010, 11:06 AM, said:

cherdanno, on Feb 16 2010, 08:29 AM, said:

billw55, on Feb 16 2010, 08:27 AM, said:

I don't understand.  Let's say E-W are clever enough to cash four clubs off the top.  Now west exits with a spade.  Declarer has only eight cashers.  If he runs the spades, west must blank a king.  But since declarer discards first, west can always keep the right one?   :huh:

Vienna Coup! (Cash A then spades.)

I still don't get it. OK, so now south and west must bear down to two cards on the run of spades, instead of three. But south still discards first. If south keeps AQ, west keeps Kx; if south keeps A x, west keeps the K.

/duncecap

And north keeps the queen of hearts, which is now good because west had to throw the heart king to come down to Kx of diamonds. Yay!

Btw wrong forum but gib doubles 1NT too much!
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Posted 2010-February-16, 10:30

jdonn, on Feb 16 2010, 11:26 AM, said:

And north keeps the queen of hearts, which is now good because west had to throw the heart king to come down to Kx of diamonds. Yay!

Btw wrong forum but gib doubles 1NT too much!

lol I hadn't even noticed the Q hiding in dummy. duuuuuuh
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