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Posted 2010-February-15, 06:07

Scoring: MP

P-1C-(1D)-X
P-???

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Posted 2010-February-15, 06:10

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Posted 2010-February-15, 06:20

Pass and lead trump.

Kidding, of course. 2 or 1, depends on my mood.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 06:40

1H.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 10:17

bd71, on Feb 15 2010, 07:07 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

P-1C-(1D)-X
P-???

1, 1, 2 are all choices since you know at least 8 of partner's cards (8M minimum) and RHO's failure to raise is somewhat indicative of partner holding 3 I would elect to play one of my 7 card fits at the 1 level. Thus 1
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Posted 2010-February-15, 10:39

1 wtp, we have a known 7-card fit which we can bid at the 1-level, and p could have more than four hearts. P will pass 2 with a weak 4531.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 11:10

Can partner have a weak 4531?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2010-February-15, 11:12

why not? Isn't he just showing both majors?
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Posted 2010-February-15, 11:12

Do the 1 bidders think they're showing exactly three, or is it 3+?

In my style, 1 or 1 would show exactly three. With four hearts, I'd bid whatever I'd have bid after the uncontested sequence 1-1.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 11:28

gnasher, on Feb 15 2010, 12:12 PM, said:

Do the 1 bidders think they're showing exactly three, or is it 3+?

In my style, 1 or 1 would show exactly three. With four hearts, I'd bid whatever I'd have bid after the uncontested sequence 1-1.

I agree with this generally altho I have called 1M with 4 when I was at the rock bottom of an opening. 4531 I would think 1 instead of negative X would be acceptable as long as partner doesn't play it to deny 4 however with 5431 I think you have to go the negative X unless you can call GF s on the next turn (i.e. after 1)
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Posted 2010-February-15, 17:31

1. Three or very bad with four. Since partner is 44+ in the majors, 2 could be terrible.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 17:33

gnasher, on Feb 15 2010, 12:12 PM, said:

Do the 1 bidders think they're showing exactly three, or is it 3+?

In my style, 1 or 1 would show exactly three. With four hearts, I'd bid whatever I'd have bid after the uncontested sequence 1-1.

For me it shows exactly three. I guess with Qxx J9xx KJx KQJ I might lie and bid 1H anyway.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 18:16

bd71, on Feb 15 2010, 07:07 AM, said:

Scoring: MP

P-1C-(1D)-X
P-???

prefer 2c.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 18:18

bah mike I expected you to say it would be an easy problem once you knew what the double has shown :)

I like 1NT
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Posted 2010-February-15, 18:26

For me the x denies a 4 card Major, so I would bid 2C with my partners. Playing with an unknown I bid 1H.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 19:30

MFA, on Feb 15 2010, 06:31 PM, said:

1. Three or very bad with four. Since partner is 44+ in the majors, 2 could be terrible.

This is exactly how I feel. If I weren't going to bid a major I would bid 1NT anyway not 2. Although it's moot because I'm bidding 1.
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Posted 2010-February-15, 20:20

1nt

ok


I have been convinced by posters that 1nt is better than 2c.
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Posted 2010-February-16, 10:21

I don't quite understand 1NT when we have a perfectly reasonable alternative of 1, which other posters have suggested shows 3 and rarely 4. If 1 must show 4 then surely it would still be the better lie? We still have lots of space to sort our trump fit out and if partner has a diamond stopper he can bid 1NT himself. This auction is different to 1-(1)-X-Pass where we sometimes have to bid 1NT without a stopper given we don't have the luxury of extra bidding space like we do here.
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Posted 2010-February-16, 11:23

Yeah 1M is often 3 to me (but does not systemically show 3). Partner will advance accordingly.
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Posted 2010-February-16, 11:38

BTW, it has always seemed to me that in any auction featuring a negative double, plus ability of Opener to bid Responder's shown suit at the one-level, that Opener should bid the normal two-level in the suit with full support but at the one-level with three-card semi-support.

Barring that, 1 seems right.
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