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Adjustment questions VIII How to handle rude behaviour

Poll: What do you adjust? (13 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you adjust?

  1. A-- (3 votes [23.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

  2. A+- (4 votes [30.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.77%

  3. 6 Hearts X = (2 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

  4. 6 Hearts X -1 (4 votes [30.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.77%

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#1 User is offline   xx1943 

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  Posted 2004-June-26, 01:16

Scoring: MP

WEST NORTH EAST SOUTH
3♦..... pass... pass.. 4♦
pass.. 5♦...... pass.. 5♥
pass.. 6♥...... X....... pass
pass.. pass


Last hand in the tourney. All other tables were ready.
I added time because it was the last round.
I went to this table an saw:

Scoring: MP

WEST NORTH EAST SOUTH
3♦..... pass... pass.. 4♦
pass.. 5♦...... pass.. 5♥
pass.. 6♥...... X....... pass
pass.. pass


Declarer played spade 8 from dummy.
E and W were waiting very long before playing next card. They were talking aal the time and not playing. (see Chat below)
Chat and last 6 tricks lasted about 7minutes.
Although I added 6min, last trick was not finished.
Server adjusted A--.

IMO:
1) N/S deserve 6♥X-1 for their bidding. They shouldn't have a benefit from E/W beeing rude.
2) E/W deserve a zero for their rudeness. But I can't do this with the actual software.
3) therefore I didn't change the A-- from server .

Your opinions?

Al


EAST: why didnt you lead clubs p???????
xx1943: go on
kib1->Kibitzers: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
kib2->Kibitzers: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
kib2->Kibitzers: zzzz zzz zzzz zzzz
kib3->Kibitzers: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
EAST: made six->EAST: I give u a warning!!!!!!!!!!! talk during play disallowed
kib4->Kibitzers: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
kib1->Kibitzers: lol
WEST: u mus be kidding there are 2suits out and I must think its c lol ->EAST: warning
WEST: dont x trash kib3->Kibitzers: lolllllllll
kib5->Kibitzers: we may see some creative discarding here !!
EAST: make intelligent plays
kib3->Kibitzers: AK!c out and he guards QJ...
kibitzing_TD: this is definitely not allowed, taable talk, he is telling his p to lead a club, I would disallow this board
xx1943: speed up pls and talking during play is strictly disallowed. this is your first and last warning
NORTH: ou both are very rude to eachother - try to treat others with respect
NORTH: it will make the game more enjoyable for all
kib2->Kibitzers: u r last table since several minutes ago...pls faster@@@
EAST: thank you so much
kib4->Kibitzers: WEST is thinking if plays QJ QJ lol
NORTH: Good double - especially at mp's
kib7->Kibitzers: ridiculous auction
Kibitzing_TD->Kibitzers: ridiculous table talk
EAST: partner leads a club it is a zero for you
kib6->Kibitzers: pls td claim
kib8->Kibitzers: why dont you plqy nylon
kib3->Kibitzers: ufffffff
kib4->Kibitzers: and ridiculous slow .....
xx1943: WEST and EAST pls register never in my tourney
kib2->Kibitzers: end now
EAST: :))
kib3->Kibitzers: now he thinks...
kib3->Kibitzers: !!!!!!!!
kib5->Kibitzers: lol kib3
kib8->Kibitzers: play
kib9->Kibitzers: td please adjust score
kib4->Kibitzers: not easy what card to play
kib2->Kibitzers: WEST PLAYLAST CARD oR ACCEPT
kib3->Kibitzers: he is thinking he did not make a trick at last but thought 5 minutes
->kib9: I can't would by unfair to other NS
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Posted 2004-June-26, 01:54

Sorry made at first a Guggenheimanian mistake and thought 6♥x would make. It is a bit comical that EW by their arguing miss a good result, whilst propably hoping to evade a bad result by slowing down. Maybe the arguing was a bit of acting to have a pretext for the slowing down. Nevertheless penalties via abuse to EW both for arguing AND slowing down.
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Posted 2004-June-26, 02:16

I'm with Guggie on this one.

If you're going to consider awaring 6♥x, then at least consider 7♥X making as a possible score.

Where is declarer's 12th trick? Or is the director assuming a revoke by either East or West.

xx wrote

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1) N/S deserve 6♥X-1 for their bidding.

That's a given but you can't manufacture a 12 the trick for NS just because EW were a pair of (alleged) ratbags.

Bring back the rope !

Dwayne Springsteen
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Posted 2004-June-26, 03:42

Dwayne, on Jun 26 2004, 03:16 AM, said:

If you're going to consider awaring 6♥x, then at least consider 7♥X making as a possible score.

Hi Dwayne

I didn't not even :o consider 6♥X= or 7♥XX=. I put 6♥X= in my poll knowing some people :P who would prefer this decision.

What in my oininion must be the right score is:

NS: 6♥X-1 (anything else is unfair to the other N/S-Pairs) :(

EW: zero zero zero :ph34r:

But there is in this software no possibility to adjust in this way.

Therefore under given circumstances the least of evils seems to me A--.

I'm not happy with this, because both pairs get too much. NS deserve 10% (for bad bidding) and EW 0% (for rudness).


Al
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Posted 2004-June-26, 11:27

If the software allowed, I'd score it 6HX-1 both ways, then disqualify EW and place them last. Your request that thy not sign up for future tournaments of yours is quite proper.
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Posted 2004-June-26, 12:36

mikestar, on Jun 26 2004, 12:27 PM, said:

If the software allowed, I'd score it 6HX-1 both ways, then disqualify EW and place them last. Your request that thy not sign up for future tournaments of yours is quite proper.

hi mike
100% ditto.

thx

Al
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