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Posted 2009-September-10, 07:06
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 07:18
vuroth, on Sep 10 2009, 08:06 AM, said:
Scoring: MP
P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P ?
P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P ?
pass and if partner actually has 4♥ maybe the opps won't find their 9+ card ♠ fit
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Posted 2009-September-10, 07:23
Fine so far 
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 08:28
With the given start you have a clear pass.
Since it's my style not to offer a minor over a minor, I would have considered bidding 1♥ over 1♦ intending to pass 1NT and 2♦ rebids and bidding 1NT over 1♠. But this is definitely not standard.
Since it's my style not to offer a minor over a minor, I would have considered bidding 1♥ over 1♦ intending to pass 1NT and 2♦ rebids and bidding 1NT over 1♠. But this is definitely not standard.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 09:29
HotShot, it was RHO who bid 2♣. You had a trap pass and now you can pass. Or maybe bid 2NT or 3♣ but I am not sure which is least revolting.
If RHO had passed, 1♥ would have been very standard
If RHO had passed, 1♥ would have been very standard
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Posted 2009-September-10, 09:48
Pass. Would like to see RHO's overcall though.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 10:32
andy_h, on Sep 10 2009, 10:48 AM, said:
Pass. Would like to see RHO's overcall though.
Scoring: MP
P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P 2♥
P P P
down 1, 42% MPs.
P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P 2♥
P P P
down 1, 42% MPs.
Top scores were 3NTS=, and 2CE-4.
I really, really thought we were going to get 2CEX-3 at least.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.
"gwnn" said:
rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
hanp does not always mean literally what he writes.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 11:11
vuroth, on Sep 10 2009, 11:32 AM, said:
andy_h, on Sep 10 2009, 10:48 AM, said:
Pass. Would like to see RHO's overcall though.
Scoring: MP
P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P 2♥
P P P
down 1, 42% MPs.
P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P 2♥
P P P
down 1, 42% MPs.
Top scores were 3NTS=, and 2CE-4.
I really, really thought we were going to get 2CEX-3 at least.
errrr, does North know about negative and reopening doubles?
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Posted 2009-September-10, 11:39
RichMor, on Sep 10 2009, 12:11 PM, said:
vuroth, on Sep 10 2009, 11:32 AM, said:
andy_h, on Sep 10 2009, 10:48 AM, said:
Pass. Would like to see RHO's overcall though.
Scoring: MP
P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P 2♥
P P P
down 1, 42% MPs.
P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P 2♥
P P P
down 1, 42% MPs.
Top scores were 3NTS=, and 2CE-4.
I really, really thought we were going to get 2CEX-3 at least.
errrr, does North know about negative and reopening doubles?
and I thought Bozo gave up bridge
"Tell me of your home world, Usul"
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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
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the Freman, Chani from the move "Dune"
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
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Posted 2009-September-10, 12:35
In that auction:
P 1D 2C P
P 2D P 2H
is the standard meaning of 2H "weak hand with long hearts" or "busted penalty pass probe for 3NT"? It seems like the penalty pass hand should cue-bid or just bid NT.
P 1D 2C P
P 2D P 2H
is the standard meaning of 2H "weak hand with long hearts" or "busted penalty pass probe for 3NT"? It seems like the penalty pass hand should cue-bid or just bid NT.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 12:44
quiddity, on Sep 10 2009, 08:35 PM, said:
In that auction:
P 1D 2C P
P 2D P 2H
is the standard meaning of 2H "weak hand with long hearts" or "busted penalty pass probe for 3NT"? It seems like the penalty pass hand should cue-bid or just bid NT.
P 1D 2C P
P 2D P 2H
is the standard meaning of 2H "weak hand with long hearts" or "busted penalty pass probe for 3NT"? It seems like the penalty pass hand should cue-bid or just bid NT.
Good question. These penalty passes are difficult IMO.
I would guess (see the ???
):- 2D=11-19 ; Not 4=3 in Majors (should DBL with 4/3=5=1)
- 2H= 6-9, 5-card (4-card???). With weaker hand you pass 2D.
- 3H iso 2H. Forcing (4cH and had a penalty pass of 2C)???
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Posted 2009-September-10, 13:20
I would bid on the given auction.
Partner needs something to be offering 2♦ opposite a PASS and could be considerably better than a normal weak 2♦ rebid had I bid.
My choices are 2NT or 3♣. I don't like either much. If 3♣ would be interpreted as forcing to game then I only have 2NT.
I hate opener's 2♦ rebid. Only a five-card suit and the normal shape for a takeout double. With only 11 HCP I don't care too much for the takeout double especially given the values are soft. I like PASS.
Partner needs something to be offering 2♦ opposite a PASS and could be considerably better than a normal weak 2♦ rebid had I bid.
My choices are 2NT or 3♣. I don't like either much. If 3♣ would be interpreted as forcing to game then I only have 2NT.
I hate opener's 2♦ rebid. Only a five-card suit and the normal shape for a takeout double. With only 11 HCP I don't care too much for the takeout double especially given the values are soft. I like PASS.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 14:28
Cascade, on Sep 10 2009, 02:20 PM, said:
I would bid on the given auction.
Partner needs something to be offering 2♦ opposite a PASS and could be considerably better than a normal weak 2♦ rebid had I bid.
Partner needs something to be offering 2♦ opposite a PASS and could be considerably better than a normal weak 2♦ rebid had I bid.
Disregarding the silliness of bidding 2♦ on the actual hand, the problem is there are two possible hand types for the 2♦ bidder:
1) He didn't double because he is (sub) minimum and/or has a club void, eg Kxxx Qxx AQJxxx - or Kxx xxx AQJxxxx x. In that case 2♦ is enough.
2) He didn't double because he can't tolerate a heart response, eg AQxx Ax KJTxxx x
Obviously 3NT is pretty good opposite the second hand and it's not clear what that hand is supposed to do after doubling and hearing 2♥. But you do need this hand type to have Ax in hearts and a club to be sure of making 3NT, though it may also be ok without ace of hearts if they don't lead one. With a better hand than my example I think I would double and bid 2♠ over 2♥.
Since partner could have either and 2♦ will often be sufficient even on the second type, I think pass is probably correct.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 15:25
I think passing as opener after the 2♣ intervention is even more inane than bidding 2♦, but double is clearly better than both.
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Posted 2009-September-10, 15:28
agree with maggieb. you should give the phone number to your partner.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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P 1♦ 2♣ P
P 2♦ P ?