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#1 User is online   jillybean 

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Posted 2009-September-06, 10:09


Dealer: South
Vul: All
Scoring: IMP
♠ 92
♥ K864
♦ 5
♣ 987654


West North East South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  Pass  2♣    3♣
 
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Posted 2009-September-06, 10:13

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Posted 2009-September-06, 10:19

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Posted 2009-September-06, 10:47

1, 3, 5, 8, 11, 14?
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Posted 2009-September-06, 10:59

vuroth, on Sep 7 2009, 04:47 AM, said:

1, 3, 5, 8, 11, 14?

Why did you stop at 14?
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Posted 2009-September-06, 11:05

Cascade, on Sep 6 2009, 11:59 AM, said:

vuroth, on Sep 7 2009, 04:47 AM, said:

1, 3, 5, 8, 11, 14?

Why did you stop at 14?

had to stop to throw up.
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Posted 2009-September-06, 11:59

Here are the next 2 boards...


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 Pass  1♣    Pass  1♥
 Pass  1♠    Pass  2♦
 Pass  2♠    Pass  6♠
 Pass  Pass  Pass  




Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     Pass  1♣    1NT
 Pass  2♦    Pass  2♥
 Pass  3NT   Pass  Pass
 Pass  

The first board had me wondering, the next 2 confirmed my hunch that South had lost all interest in the game. This is from a STAR player in one of my tournaments.
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Posted 2009-September-06, 12:08

jillybean, on Sep 6 2009, 11:09 AM, said:


Dealer: South
Vul: All
Scoring: IMP
♠ 92
♥ K864
♦ 5
♣ 987654


West North East South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  Pass  2♣    3♣
 

I am inclined to pass as we might have a good ♥ fit but have no problem with those using X to tell partner this is our probable best spot
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Posted 2009-September-07, 07:11

pooltuna, on Sep 6 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

jillybean, on Sep 6 2009, 11:09 AM, said:


Dealer: South
Vul: All
Scoring: IMP
♠ 92
♥ K864
♦ 5
♣ 987654
 


West  North East  South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  Pass  2♣    3♣
 

I am inclined to pass as we might have a good ♥ fit but have no problem with those using X to tell partner this is our probable best spot

hehe the bidding is so improbably your mind filtered it for you pooltuna - that *was* the 3c bid.

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Posted 2009-September-07, 08:07

vuroth, on Sep 6 2009, 11:47 AM, said:

1, 3, 5, 8, 11, 14?

you got the wrong sequence [2,5,8,11,14,17,20,23,26] and against reasonable opps you can stop at 8 and give up on your 1430, 1460, or 2210
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Posted 2009-September-07, 08:22

phil_20686, on Sep 7 2009, 08:11 AM, said:

pooltuna, on Sep 6 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

jillybean, on Sep 6 2009, 11:09 AM, said:


<!-- ONEHAND begin --><table border='1'> <tr> <td> <table> <tr> <td> Dealer: </td> <td> South </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Vul: </td> <td> All </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Scoring: </td> <td> IMP </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td> <table> <tr> <th> <span class='spades'> ♠ </th> <td> 92 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='hearts'> ♥ </span> </th> <td> K864 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='diamonds'> ♦ </span> </th> <td> 5 </td> </tr> <tr> <th> <span class='clubs'> ♣ </span> </th> <td> 987654 </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td>  </td> </tr> </table><!-- ONEHAND end -->

West  North East  South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  Pass  2♣    3♣
 </span>

I am inclined to pass as we might have a good ♥ fit but have no problem with those using X to tell partner this is our probable best spot

hehe the bidding is so improbably your mind filtered it for you pooltuna - that *was* the 3c bid.

Phil

Yes K did not add any extra information[or even a "all pass" or 3 passes at the end] so I looked for a problem
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Posted 2009-September-07, 16:06

If partner is in the joke, why not?

I would not do it, but going in, when they have opened 2C is
the right idea.
The only sad thing is, that you have the wrong black suit.

It helps as well, if they think you are a solid guy or a solid girl.

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Posted 2009-September-07, 16:14

pooltuna, on Sep 7 2009, 07:22 AM, said:

Yes K did not add any extra information[or even a "all pass" or 3 passes at the end] so I looked for a problem

Youre too easily fooled Ted.
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Posted 2009-September-07, 16:46

jillybean, on Sep 6 2009, 12:59 PM, said:

The first board had me wondering, the next 2 confirmed my hunch that South had lost all interest in the game. This is from a STAR player in one of my tournaments.
There's just no getting away from these idiots.

Assuming this player was needing great boards in order to place, I don't see anything outrageous in any of these actions. The 3♣ bid on the first board, for example, is a good bid against many opponents.
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Posted 2009-September-07, 17:02

cherdanno, on Sep 7 2009, 05:46 PM, said:

jillybean, on Sep 6 2009, 12:59 PM, said:

The first board had me wondering, the next 2 confirmed my hunch that South had lost all interest in the game. This is from a STAR player in one of my tournaments.
There's just no getting away from these idiots.

Assuming this player was needing great boards in order to place, I don't see anything outrageous in any of these actions. The 3♣ bid on the first board, for example, is a good bid against many opponents.

LOL. I don't want to be the partner of that guy. He seems to decide what to do from his side of the table, and doesn't want partner in on the secret. Maybe his moves work on occasion, but so what? Let him find someone who will just sit there and let him do his thing. It aint me, and it apparently aint jilly.
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Posted 2009-September-07, 19:33

Agree with Arend.

While I wouldn't make any of these bids (in particular I don't like 6♠ even after partner has promised 5-6 in the black suits) I don't think that 3♣ is anywhere near as bad as some posters seem to think.

jillybean, on Sep 6 2009, 12:59 PM, said:

This is from a STAR player in one of my tournaments.
There's just no getting away from these idiots.

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Posted 2009-September-07, 19:52

Hand 1) 3♣ vulnerable on that rubbish doesn't preempt enough and may get tagged for 1100 when there's no slam. It is a silly bid vs opps with brain waves. Even without methods opener can just rebid his suit at the 3 level or X if balanced or take a shot at 3nt with a couple stoppers.

Hand 2) I'd have splintered 4♦ with pard's hand. His jump to 6♠ after using 4sf is too optimistic.. why not probe a bit more ?

Hand 3) Hmm... he must think that aces count 5 hcp.

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Posted 2009-September-07, 21:31

655321, on Sep 7 2009, 06:33 PM, said:

jillybean, on Sep 6 2009, 12:59 PM, said:

This is from a STAR player in one of my tournaments.
There's just no getting away from these idiots.

Charming.

Sorry and truely shocking coming from me but I've had a week of it! I didn't mean idiot star players per se, rather, over rated idiots in general.
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Posted 2009-September-08, 07:53

neilkaz, on Sep 7 2009, 08:52 PM, said:

Hand 1) 3♣ vulnerable on that rubbish doesn't preempt enough and may get tagged for 1100 when there's no slam. It is a silly bid vs opps with brain waves. Even without methods opener can just rebid his suit at the 3 level or X if balanced or take a shot at 3nt with a couple stoppers.

Hand 2) I'd have splintered 4♦ with pard's hand. His jump to 6♠ after using 4sf is too optimistic.. why not probe a bit more ?

Hand 3) Hmm... he must think that aces count 5 hcp.

Do these people buy these stars at Wal Mart ?

I didn't realize Wal Mart had obtained exclusive rights on selling CrackerJacks :)
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Posted 2009-September-08, 09:20

I heard that anyone who represented their country at junior level in beijing was eligible for a star.

I'm not sure if this is true, but if i am eligible for one, they clearly arent exclusive enough for me to want one. :)
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