[gwnn]

Agree with 655 and nigel.

[shyams]

The full hand: N/S make 8 tricks in H, 9 tricks in S, 10 tricks in C; E/W make 7 tricks in NT, 8 tricks in D.

Scoring: MP

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At the table, I felt partner's 2S bid was an overbid and her correct action was either passing 2H or bidding 3C (I prefer the latter). In any case, we had blundered into the right partial (3S) till partner bid 4C

Feel free to criticize the bidding. I think a weak 2H is actually appealing with the South hand...

[Cascade]

3♣ would be wrong.

If this hand is not good enough for 2♠ then you need to start with 1♠ otherwise you will miss out completely when you really do have a spade fit.

I think the hand is easily good enough for 2♠ with six clubs and four spades. I might even bid this way if it was unconditionally Game Forcing although I don't usually play that way.

[cherdanno]

shyams, on Aug 15 2009, 03:04 AM, said:

The full hand: N/S make 8 tricks in H, 9 tricks in S, 10 tricks in C; E/W make 7 tricks in NT, 8 tricks in D.

Scoring: MP

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At the table, I felt partner's 2S bid was an overbid and her correct action was either passing 2H or bidding 3C (I prefer the latter). In any case, we had blundered into the right partial (3S) till partner bid 4C

Feel free to criticize the bidding. I think a weak 2H is actually appealing with the South hand...

Hi shyams,

if you play "something like SAYC" (or standard American), then many of the bids are more forcing than you seem to be aware of.

2♣ promises a rebid. 2♥ does not deny extra strength, so responder cannot pass this.
2♠ by responder shows extra strength and is a game force. Rebidding 3♣ is unreasonable, but I think the hand is just about worth a game force, and I do not want to risk missing game nor missing a spade fit.

Raising 2♠ to 3♠ shows 4 spades - a good general guideline is "never raise partner's second suit with less than 4 trumps". Also, 2♥ has not shown 6 hearts yet, so the best rebid (IMO) is 3♥. If partner has 5 spades, or 4 really good ones and no diamond stopper, he can still bid 3♠ over that.

So yes I would get to 4♥ with these two hands (responder has no choice over 3♥ but to raise) - sometimes you get too high when both partners are minimum for their actions.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

1H is fine, while 2H is certainly an option, opening 1H
is safer than opening 2H playing with a stranger.

3S is just ...., 3H is clearly the bid to make, you have a
6 carder, show it, partner does not know this, it does
not even matter, if 3H can be passed or not, because
you dont care given that you happen to hold a dead min.
for your opening bid.

Over 4C you have to bid 4H, a cue for spades, denying a
diamond cue, you decided that te 3 card support was enough
to suggest playing spades, there is nothing in the auction to
suggest, that you have to change your mind.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I have had a look at the complete deal, I would have bid
2S myself, but than 2S i not gf for me, but as you see on my
above remarks, it does not matter, you have a clear cut 3H bid,
that you can only make 8 heart tricks does not say any thing,
and claiming that you reached the right partial with 3S, a 4-3
fit is just resulting.