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Game or invite?
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Posted 2009-August-10, 17:49
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Posted 2009-August-10, 17:57
I would just bid 3C, my trumps are bad in a situation where trumps may break poorly (takeout double), and it's not imps, and RHOs failure to bid 2S might indicate we are gonna hit spade wastage opposite.
Admittedly conservative.
Admittedly conservative.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 18:00
Assuming 2♦ was 8-10 or so with 3 hearts, inviting looks right.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 18:58
3♣ is plenty. Pass is possible and 4♥ is far too much.
I would just invite at IMPS opposite a constructive three card raise with opponents silent, and hope to make 3♥ if partner declines. This is considerably worse than that for the reasons given by Justin. Why does everybody overbid 5-5 hands?
I would just invite at IMPS opposite a constructive three card raise with opponents silent, and hope to make 3♥ if partner declines. This is considerably worse than that for the reasons given by Justin. Why does everybody overbid 5-5 hands?
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Posted 2009-August-10, 21:26
3♣ is warranted. Concerned pard has a little wastage in spades.
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Posted 2009-August-10, 21:38
nigel_k, on Aug 10 2009, 07:58 PM, said:
3♣ is plenty. Pass is possible and 4♥ is far too much.
I would just invite at IMPS opposite a constructive three card raise with opponents silent, and hope to make 3♥ if partner declines. This is considerably worse than that for the reasons given by Justin. Why does everybody overbid 5-5 hands?
I would just invite at IMPS opposite a constructive three card raise with opponents silent, and hope to make 3♥ if partner declines. This is considerably worse than that for the reasons given by Justin. Why does everybody overbid 5-5 hands?
Nice post...and good comments here about the need to be a bit conservative.
I'll also just invite with 3♣
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Posted 2009-August-10, 22:44
(About IMPs.)
Because sometimes you might make when they misdefend, or make the wrong lead. Because often when you go down, it is still a good safe against their partial. Because sometimes opponents miss their game because they don't know whether you bid on shape or on values, and because they don't find their double fit when you don't show your second suit. Because sometimes they bid game when they shouldn't.
When any of this happens, the reward at IMPs is high. The cost of 4H-2 versus 3H-1, or 4H-1 versus 3H=, or 4HX-2 versus their 3S= is not so high.
nigel_k, on Aug 10 2009, 07:58 PM, said:
Why does everybody overbid 5-5 hands?
Because sometimes you might make when they misdefend, or make the wrong lead. Because often when you go down, it is still a good safe against their partial. Because sometimes opponents miss their game because they don't know whether you bid on shape or on values, and because they don't find their double fit when you don't show your second suit. Because sometimes they bid game when they shouldn't.
When any of this happens, the reward at IMPs is high. The cost of 4H-2 versus 3H-1, or 4H-1 versus 3H=, or 4HX-2 versus their 3S= is not so high.
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Posted 2009-August-11, 07:43
Jlall, on Aug 10 2009, 06:57 PM, said:
I would just bid 3C, my trumps are bad in a situation where trumps may break poorly (takeout double), and it's not imps, and RHOs failure to bid 2S might indicate we are gonna hit spade wastage opposite.
Admittedly conservative.
Admittedly conservative.
count my vote with Justin's
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Posted 2009-August-11, 11:27
I normally raise my 5-5 to game, but here I am just inviting, many good reasons given, adn I'll add that I don't like my ♦K much.
would drive to game if ♦K was the ace or if it was on one of my suits.
would drive to game if ♦K was the ace or if it was on one of my suits.
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