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How do you defend? (EASY) Suramericano de bridge (some hands)

#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2009-June-01, 11:21

All red, it goes:

1NT-3NT

Scoring: IMP


You lead your 4th best heart, dummy wins partner plays the 5, declarer 3. A small diamond is played from the table to the 7 (upside-down count), Q and...

How do you defend?

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2009-June-01, 12:48

Wild speculation hidden

Spoiler

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Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2009-June-01, 16:54

I think your speculation may be right. But more to the point, can't declarer hold something like:

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Posted 2009-June-01, 18:55

I win A and return 6. This caters to partner holding K, or 3 hearts plus A. In the latter case, we're hoping declare has only 3 spades, 2 hearts, and 3 diamonds off the top.
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Posted 2009-June-01, 19:05

You specified upside-down count but didn't specify attitude conventions to the first trick. I'm assuming standard.

If East has the HK, why didn't he play it? If he has 3 hearts without the K, why did he (apparently) signal encouragement? I don't understand the entry argument - if he had Kxx, he could win the HK and play a second round for partner to take or duck as needed. At least that doesn't leave West in the dark.

Depending on opening lead agreements, maybe East is worried about losing his K to a doubleton HA in declarer's hand - if the H7 could be led from 97xxx for example.

On the other hand, perhaps declarer has Ax K432 Qxxx AQx and is falsecarding, hoping West can't find the spade switch.
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Posted 2009-June-01, 19:17

quiddity, on Jun 1 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

On the other hand, perhaps declarer has Ax K432 Qxxx AQx and is falsecarding, hoping West can't find the spade switch.

Bingo. I think there is no chance partner has the heart king since he should count on us to duck the second round, him ducking and hoping we could read the situation is partnership torture. On the other hand I see no reason a layout like this one you suggest couldn't be the case.
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Posted 2009-June-01, 21:14

jdonn, on Jun 1 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

quiddity, on Jun 1 2009, 08:05 PM, said:

On the other hand, perhaps declarer has Ax K432 Qxxx AQx and is falsecarding, hoping West can't find the spade switch.

Bingo. I think there is no chance partner has the heart king since he should count on us to duck the second round, him ducking and hoping we could read the situation is partnership torture. On the other hand I see no reason a layout like this one you suggest couldn't be the case.

Agreed that PD cannot (or really shouldn't) have the K.

As for the way declarer is playing his spots..if he always plays them in order, the opps will find it much easier to count and signal.

However, if this is an easy defense for what is posted here in B/I I really need to play in easier games.
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