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MSC problem or obvious?

Poll: Your bid: (44 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid:

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Dbl (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 3S (34 votes [77.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 77.27%

  4. 3NT (10 votes [22.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.73%

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#1 User is offline   Gerben42 

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Posted 2009-April-14, 02:11

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Posted 2009-April-14, 02:16

3♠.

Would not seriously consider anything else, even though other options can work on a particular hand.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 03:08

Both 3♠ and 3NT should work fine. I prefer 3♠ due to likelyhood of spade fit across.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 03:11

3♠, not an MSC problem.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 04:55

3S for me.. what is MSC?
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Posted 2009-April-14, 05:36

3♠ definitely.

You have a good spade suit and the required points, and not enough for double. 3NT shows 9 tricks and, try counting nine tricks in that hand.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 06:25

mohitz, on Apr 14 2009, 10:55 AM, said:

3S for me.. what is MSC?

Master solver club. A panel of experts that opinates on given bidding sequences on a magazine.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 07:14

whereagles, on Apr 14 2009, 07:25 AM, said:

Master solver club. A panel of experts that opinates on given bidding sequences on a magazine.

Are they all Italian? I thought in English you opined on such things.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 07:24

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Posted 2009-April-14, 08:16

Hi,

I wont pass, I wont make a t/o.

That leaves 3S and 3NT, hence I will go with the sane 3S.

If you would have included 4S, I may have voted for an
insane option, but you were nice.

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Posted 2009-April-14, 08:52

y66, on Apr 14 2009, 08:24 AM, said:

-ate never, -ine ever ... easy to get this backwards

:P nice
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Posted 2009-April-14, 12:40

petergreat, on Apr 14 2009, 06:36 AM, said:

3♠ definitely.

You have a good spade suit and the required points, and not enough for double. 3NT shows 9 tricks and, try counting nine tricks in that hand.

3NT shows 9 tricks?!
I think it's possible to come to 9 tricks in NT with partner's help; hold up in diamonds to kill RHO's hand, then knock out LHO's stoppers. The small H doubleton might be a reason to bid 3S, but if 3NT is right we can hardly expect partner to bid it.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 13:14

Hammans rule?! OK 3S but 3N must at least be reasonable.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 15:04

JLOL, on Apr 14 2009, 02:14 PM, said:

Hammans rule?! OK 3S but 3N must at least be reasonable.

More than reasonable :)
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Posted 2009-April-14, 17:06

3NT isn't bad, but I like 3♠ here.
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Posted 2009-April-14, 17:09

3NT for me.
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Posted 2009-April-15, 11:26

I thought 3NT was obvious until I started reading all these 3S bids.
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Posted 2009-April-15, 15:12

I vote for 3S. 3NT could work and is certainly reasonable but I know I would bid 3S, because 3S does not preclude 3NT (partner can still find 3NT [with DI] Kx, ♦ QTx, or even ♦ Qx to right-side the contract!), but 3NT almost certainly precludes 4S.

Another interesting factor nobody has mentioned is that partner is a passed hand. I think that takes away one of the winning scenarios for a 3NT overcall-- oftentimes when the partnership has a balanced 28-29 HCP 3NT plays just as well as 4S, but that won't be happening now. I think it's far more likely now that partner will have a mediocre hand with spade support and diamond shortness (the winning scenario for 4S).
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