Third rate the hand, plan the play Yet another 7NT, maybe no right response
#2
Posted 2009-April-01, 16:55
* If any criss-cross squeeze can be rated as "routine."
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#3
Posted 2009-April-01, 17:00
#4
Posted 2009-April-01, 17:10
The end position will be north AK of hearts Jx of diamonds, south xxx of hearts A of diamonds, leaving both suits blocked (you can play off one high heart first at no benefit and no cost). If west started with 6+ hearts and the king of diamonds, he can't keep three hearts with Kx of diamonds, so whichever suit you feel he has unguarded (the hallmark of the cirss cross squeeze is you have to read the discards since your play won't be proven) you unblock that suit then cross back in the other suit.
#5
Posted 2009-April-01, 17:17
#6
Posted 2009-April-01, 17:27
mikeh, on Apr 1 2009, 06:00 PM, said:
Just to add a little bit to that: I think it is clear to play LHO for a 6-card heart suit rather than QJTxx. He led a singleton rather than a heart.
#7
Posted 2009-April-01, 21:56
Once you recognize the position, the hand plays itself. There's a little guessing in the endgame (West has a mandatory false card of either baring the ♦A or pitching the ♥10 from QJTx), but you'll get it right a lot.
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#8
Posted 2009-April-01, 23:45
inquiry, on Apr 1 2009, 05:43 PM, said:
Opening lead is a club -- and for whatever reason, you decide to play WEST for the spade queen, he has doubleton queen. West also shows up with singleton club.
First off we nonexperts need to rectify the count..... RR.
#9
Posted 2009-April-01, 23:59
(by the way, my vote was the 7th and so far no two votes have been the same!)
#10
Posted 2009-April-02, 00:44
hanp, on Apr 2 2009, 12:59 AM, said:
LOL
#11
Posted 2009-April-02, 02:39
#12
Posted 2009-April-02, 03:13
Still, the criss cross here is better than the finesse by 4 to 3.
#13
Posted 2009-April-02, 08:19
#14
Posted 2009-April-02, 09:12
Example of an easier one that is still going to stump virtually all Intermediate and many Advanced players:
North rather entusiastically raises your Gambling 3N to 7N.
West leads the ♠K.
Plan your play.
It would seem that there are still easier examples that are not trivial (13 top tricks ought to be the bottom of the scale).
#15
Posted 2009-April-02, 16:12
BillHiggin, on Apr 2 2009, 07:12 AM, said:
I think I'm in the advanced bucket too, but isn't this just ♠A, ♥A, ♣AK, run diamonds picthing 1 ♥ and 2♠ and then on the last diamond you pitch the ♠J if you haven't yet seen the ♠Q. Then if no one has thrown the ♣Q you cash ♥K and hope that west has kept the ♠Q and east the ♣Q so that your ♥4 is good? Or am I missing a line that can survive if east has 3+ hearts but west has both black Q (and at least 3 clubs)?
#16
Posted 2009-April-02, 17:39
Dummy
♠A
♥AK
♦Jx
♣-
You
♠-
♥9XX
♦AQ
♣-
LHO
♠-
♥QJ10?
♦Kx
♣-
You pitch a diamond on the last spade and LHO is stuck. If diamond pitch, then diamond to A, else cash AK of hearts and diamond to hand winning last heart. I am playing LHO for 6 hearts to the qj or qT and of course the diamond k. So I will watch for H discards from LHO.
#17
Posted 2009-April-02, 17:51
This rating of hands thing is very fuzzy, since no one really knows what we are rating.
It might be easier to say, "what level of bridge master would you expect to find this on"? This gives us a large sample of hands on which to base a comparison.
This hand is definitely level four. I remember seeing a criss-cross squeeze in level four (I don't think it was one of the freebies though).
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#18
Posted 2009-April-03, 04:14
By the way, Ben? Are you trying to set up a course or something and want stuff rated?
#19
Posted 2009-April-03, 08:25
whereagles, on Apr 3 2009, 05:14 AM, said:
By the way, Ben? Are you trying to set up a course or something and want stuff rated?
But what would Han rate this?
Maybe it is just a laydown. When it came up (many many years ago at a money bridge game), I claimed at trick one.
#20
Posted 2009-April-03, 09:56
In essences, I am collecting and catagorizing a group of hands, that start with 7NT (no chance for ruff, no chance for endplay, no chance for suit establishiment by giving up a trick, etc), then seven of a suit (doesn't matter which one) that require techniques not available in NT, then 6NT, then 6 of a suit. The idea is to build upon general play techniques in a logical order based upon what type of plays are available. Think of it as a bridge plays from A to Z type of thing, but with plays group based on what you can afford (no losers? one loser? two losers?) and if trumps are in play or not. Yes, a few hands deal with simply what is a finessee and the fact that you need to take it (a level 1 or level 0 hand for sure, and too simple for Bridge Master Level 1).
In the process of doing this, I want to sort types of hands based upon difficulty level. Sometimes, I have a lot of touble deciding how difficult a hand is. I think the answer to that is, if I can find it, how difficult can it be? In part, I am posting these thread as you suggest, to see how the forum views some of the hands found (others I iknow how difficult or not difficult the problems are). In part, simply because I find the hands interesting and it seems like a fun thing to do post hands and see how people might approach them. In each case, the hand is makable, and at least someone went down in it during play on the BBO. I have found two backwash squeezes -- admission I had to use deep finessee on those, so I rate those as 9/10's. I have a couple of entry squeezes, found one of those myself, deep finesse need for the others. And a whole host of guard squeezes, double squeezes, etc.
But, and this is imporant, the vast majority of hands collected have nothing or little to do with squeezes (one considers squeezes on some but then elect other lines for good reasons). Some in fact, simply involve not blocking yourself while cashing sure winners. Others with test the split of one suit before taking a finesse. Others cashing cards in the right order to protect against 4-0 splits (so you can pick up the suit), things like that. The vast majority are thus way to simple to be posted in an interesting hand thread here. The project is more for beginners/intermediates, but there are some that a larger audience might find fun.

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Opening lead is a club -- and for whatever reason, you decide to play WEST for the spade queen, he has doubleton queen. West also shows up with singleton club.