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#21 User is offline   FrancesHinden 

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Posted 2009-April-04, 04:39

I understand pass.
I understand 1NT

I really don't understand the point of a 1D overcall.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 05:53

FrancesHinden, on Apr 4 2009, 10:39 AM, said:

I understand pass.
I understand 1NT

I really don't understand the point of a 1D overcall.

Ask marshal miles.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 11:04

whereagles, on Apr 4 2009, 06:53 AM, said:

FrancesHinden, on Apr 4 2009, 10:39 AM, said:

I understand pass.
I understand 1NT

I really don't understand the point of a 1D overcall.

Ask marshal miles.

I bet you $100 he would overcall 1NT. I could ask him if you want (I haven't cheated or asked him yet). Lets say $100 for me if 1NT, $100 for you if 1, break even if he passes.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 11:30

3N? This seems way off from making. Even if we avoid the spade lead, we need to conjure a 9th trick somehow. After we hook diamonds through opener, we still need the entries to lead up to our clubs a few times and try to shut out LHO.
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Posted 2009-April-04, 11:42

If we're going to play 3NT, we should do it from partner's side. Maybe
  1  1  pass 2
  pass 3
should ask him to bid 3NT. (Not that I'd have bid only 2 with his hand. Whatever you think of the "Law" of Total Tricks, that hand should bid to the three level.)

In 3NT from our side, a spade lead isn't immediately fatal if it's lower than the seven. I'd play responder for Q, to provide the entries to lead clubs up twice. Not much of a game, as you say.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-April-05, 05:00

jdonn, on Apr 4 2009, 05:04 PM, said:

whereagles, on Apr 4 2009, 06:53 AM, said:

FrancesHinden, on Apr 4 2009, 10:39 AM, said:

I understand pass.
I understand 1NT

I really don't understand the point of a 1D overcall.

Ask marshal miles.

I bet you $100 he would overcall 1NT. I could ask him if you want (I haven't cheated or asked him yet). Lets say $100 for me if 1NT, $100 for you if 1, break even if he passes.

Deal. Gimme his phone number.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 07:00

"Hello? Is that Mr Miles?"
- Yes
"I've got a business proposition for you. Sent an email to <jdonn/whereagles> saying it's obvious to <bid 1D/bid 1NT> and I'll pay you $50"
- Seems reasonable, what's their address?
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Posted 2009-April-05, 08:21

whereagles, on Apr 5 2009, 06:00 AM, said:

Deal. Gimme his phone number.

LOL, how about I email him instead of giving his phone number to people in other countries who don't know him?! I will post the unedited response whether I win or lose.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 08:51

I hope none of my students see this hand.
I am teaching absolutely not to make a TO double of minor suit with less than 4 of one major, 3 of the other or a big big hand. And if they come up with this hand and ask what to do, what do I say???

Incidentally I think I had this hand and I did shut my eyes and bid 1 NT and I don't remember what happened then. Did I make it?
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Posted 2009-April-05, 10:47

You tell them that no rules in bridge apply to every hand, but it is important to be able to pass sometimes when they bid your best suit.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 11:17

AnJoe, on Apr 5 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

I hope none of my students see this hand.
I am teaching absolutely not to make a TO double of minor suit with less than 4 of one major, 3 of the other or a big big hand. And if they come up with this hand and ask what to do, what do I say???

Not a bad rule to teach.
And the only unanimous thing about this thread is that no-one has suggested a double.
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Posted 2009-April-05, 13:20

The only rule that always works in bridge is:

"When in doubt, THINK."
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