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Poll: Have a nice guess (28 member(s) have cast votes)

Have a nice guess

  1. pass and pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. pass and double (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. pass and 3 clubs (1 votes [3.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.57%

  4. pass and 3NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3 clubs (20 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  6. 3NT (5 votes [17.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.86%

  7. something else (2 votes [7.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.14%

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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2009-March-26, 19:48

K54
AJ5
Q
AKQJ52

N-S Vulnerable

W - N - E - S
1NT-ps-2*-??

2*= transfer.

NOTE: If you pass, feel free to comment what you would do if it comes at the 3 level next.
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Posted 2009-March-26, 20:56

I think the suit quality is good enough. 3.
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Posted 2009-March-26, 22:32

kenrexford, on Mar 26 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

I think the suit quality is good enough. 3.

yeah whats the problem
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Posted 2009-March-26, 22:38

Even if they psyched, opener might well not be off the hook yet when 3c comes back to responder.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 01:45

JLOL, on Mar 27 2009, 01:32 PM, said:

yeah whats the problem

Maybe Gonzalo posted because of a missed 3 NT opposite QJ,Txx,JTxxx,xxx?

But 3 club seems to be clear cut anyway.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 06:24

3NT is the bid, considering this was posted, but if LHO psyched then RHO will probably be bidding again, and depending on the level/suit we can take it for a number... But bidding 3NT may net a X from RHO... All this above is just a way to NOT make this a one liner post... 3.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 07:55

3 seems like what you should bid now, but it's almost impossible for your side to find 3NT if it is correct no matter what you bid, unless you just bid 3NT, and just bidding 3NT is very likely to be wrong.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 08:10

over 3 it comes 3 pass pass
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Posted 2009-March-27, 09:16

I don't know why everyone is thinking psych, we don't really have evidence of that. We can just have a game when responder is broke. But I don't see what alternative there is to 3 since bidding game outright seems like too much.
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Posted 2009-March-27, 09:20

Partner is presumably a strong favourite to have a stiff spade.

I am morally certain that I know what works on this hand, and I would love to have the nerve to do this at the table, but never would. I am almost sure that the call that works here is 4.

The second most likely to work call is double, planning to convert 4 to 4.

I would reject 3N since I don't think it can be natural, even if I felt like risking it: it should be 4+ diamonds with a club suit at lest 2 cards longer than clubs.

ATT, I'm sure I'd pass but for here put me down for 4, if only to show that I'm not always conservative (or sane).
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Posted 2009-March-27, 09:32

mikeh, on Mar 27 2009, 10:20 AM, said:

Partner is presumably a strong favourite to have a stiff spade.

I am morally certain that I know what works on this hand, and I would love to have the nerve to do this at the table, but never would. I am almost sure that the call that works here is 4.

The second most likely to work call is double, planning to convert 4 to 4.

I would reject 3N since I don't think it can be natural, even if I felt like risking it: it should be 4+ diamonds with a club suit at lest 2 cards longer than clubs.

ATT, I'm sure I'd pass but for here put me down for 4, if only to show that I'm not always conservative (or sane).

I've never until now thought that someone saw both the hand AND the auction wrong on the same problem!

Oh now I see, you mean when 3 comes back. I was very confused. <_<
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Posted 2009-March-27, 09:35

jdonn, on Mar 27 2009, 10:32 AM, said:

mikeh, on Mar 27 2009, 10:20 AM, said:

Partner is presumably a strong favourite to have a stiff spade.

I am morally certain that I know what works on this hand, and I would love to have the nerve to do this at the table, but never would. I am almost sure that the call that works here is 4.

The second most likely to work call is double, planning to convert 4 to 4.

I would reject 3N since I don't think it can be natural, even if I felt like risking it: it should be 4+ diamonds with a club suit at lest 2 cards longer than clubs.

ATT, I'm sure I'd pass but for here put me down for 4, if only to show that I'm not always conservative (or sane).

I've never until now thought that someone saw both the hand AND the auction wrong on the same problem!

Oh now I see, you mean when 3 comes back. I was very confused. <_<

You think you're confused now.. wait until dummy hits if you bid like I suggested!
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Posted 2009-March-27, 09:38

I was wondering why almost nobody considered 3NT as a viable option, and I realised that I forgot to mention it is MPs. 3NT is too much at IMPs vulnerable, but MPs makes it a bit more appealing.
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Posted 2009-March-29, 20:48

Partner had

x
Kxxxx
J9xxx
xx

3NT and 4 were both cold, 3NT probably making 10-13 tricks. 3 only 1 down.
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Posted 2009-March-29, 20:57

Obvious 4H call. :)
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Posted 2009-March-29, 21:49

mikeh ftw
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