[oldman5757]

Scoring: IMP

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This came up in Aussie match I was watching. How would you bid this in your partnership? Would anyone playing SAYC or 2/1 not open 2 ♣ with the S hand? Does that help?

FWIW, N/S ended up in 6NT, which has no play since RHO holds ♦ Qxx. (Well, almost no play. If LHO leads a ♣ away from the K, you can win the J and run the ♦ J. )

Where would your partnership end up?

[mtvesuvius]

For one of my favorite partnerships, this would be my auction:

1♣ - 1♦ | 16+ Any; 0-8 HCP Any
1♥ - 1NT | 19+ Any; 6-8 HCP with at least 6-5 in two suits
2♣ - 2♠ | Relay Asking; 6+!s and 5+ of another suit
2NT - 3♦ | Asking 2nd Suit; 6+♠ 5+♦
4♦ - 5♠ | Minorwood 1430; 3 or 0 with a Useful Void
5NT - 6♦ | Asking Where the Void is; ♥ void
7♦ - Pass | Guessing about the Queen of trump, which is what I dislike about my auction, but...

[lonesome31]

I play Modify Precision with my regular pd.
Our auction :

1♣ -- 1♠ // 17+ ; 5+cards,GF
1NT -- 2♦ // relay ; 2nd suit.
2NT -- 3♣ // relay ; minimum.
3♦ -- 3♥ //relay ; 5♠-5♦ or more
3♠ -- 4♠ // relay ; 6+♠ 5-♦
4NT -- 5♣ // Blackwood
6♠




Dangerous 7♦ when without trump Q (9 cards trump only)?
If pd showing 6 cards ♦, 7♦ I will.

[Mbodell]

For me it would be, I think:

1♣-1♦ | 16+; 0-7 or no 2 controls
2♥-2NT | very strong (2♣ in standard) heart hand; good hand, bad hearts
3♦-4♦ | natural; agreeing trump
4♠-5♣ | 1st or second round cues
6♦

[karlson]

Playing standardish methods, I would just show the south hand as 22-24 balanced. I'm not sure what north would do, but I'm pretty sure I'd be in 6♠.

[whereagles]

I would probably end up in 6♠, but with little confidence in the bidding.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

Playing Benjamin, i.e. we can stop in 2H if p is dead,
and 2/1, it is close, but most likely I would go with 1H,
partner will respond with a fit and 3-4HCP, so missing
game is not a big issue. So

1H - 1S
3D - 4D (1)
4H (2) - 4S (2)
4NT (3) - 5C (3)
6D (4)

(1) natural, forward going
(2) cue
(3) RKCB, 0 or 3 KC
(4) thats it

With kind regards
Marlowe

[mike777]

oldman5757, on Mar 25 2009, 01:51 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

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This came up in Aussie match I was watching. How would you bid this in your partnership? Would anyone playing SAYC or 2/1 not open 2 ♣ with the S hand? Does that help?

FWIW, N/S ended up in 6NT, which has no play since RHO holds ♦ Qxx. (Well, almost no play. If LHO leads a ♣ away from the K, you can win the J and run the ♦ J. )

Where would your partnership end up?

2c=2s
3h=3s
3nt=6s

[jdonn]

mtvesuvius, on Mar 25 2009, 01:59 PM, said:

For one of my favorite partnerships, this would be my auction:

1♣ - 1♦ | 16+ Any; 0-8 HCP Any
1♥ - 1NT | 19+ Any; 6-8 HCP with at least 6-5 in two suits
2♣ - 2♠ | Relay Asking; 6+!s and 5+ of another suit
2NT - 3♦ | Asking 2nd Suit; 6+♠ 5+♦
4♦ - 5♠ | Minorwood 1430; 3 or 0 with a Useful Void
5NT - 6♦ | Asking Where the Void is; ♥ void
7♦ - Pass | Guessing about the Queen of trump, which is what I dislike about my auction, but...

0-8? Really?????

[mtvesuvius]

jdonn, on Mar 25 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

mtvesuvius, on Mar 25 2009, 01:59 PM, said:

For one of my favorite partnerships, this would be my auction:

1♣ - 1♦ | 16+ Any; 0-8 HCP Any
1♥ - 1NT | 19+ Any; 6-8 HCP with at least 6-5 in two suits
2♣ - 2♠ | Relay Asking; 6+!s and 5+ of another suit
2NT - 3♦ | Asking 2nd Suit; 6+♠ 5+♦
4♦ - 5♠ | Minorwood 1430; 3 or 0 with a Useful Void
5NT - 6♦ | Asking Where the Void is; ♥ void
7♦ - Pass | Guessing about the Queen of trump, which is what I dislike about my auction, but...

0-8? Really?????

It's a very effective way to show this exactly type of hand, however I agree this is WAY over "0-8"

[oldman5757]

The Aussie auction went something like this, I think:

2♣ 3♥ (transfer, promising 7 solid spades)

3♠ 4♣ (no doubt intended as a cue, but...)

6♣ 6♠

6NT all pass

One of the commentators observed that if you spend much time practicing for hands like this, you're wasting your time. There's no good way to bid 7-5 freaks especially opposite a 2 ♣ opener.

I like the transfer over 2 ♣ showing the solid suit. After P's forced 3♠ response I'd like to think I'd have justed blasted 6 ♠, but I might have tried 5 ♦. I really have no idea how P would take that.

[Gerben42]

1♥ (forcing) - 1NT (5+♠)
2♣* (Gazilli) - 3♠ (forcing with 6+♠)
blablabla... 6♠

[FrancesHinden]

I don't often reply to problems you post both hands and say "how do we bid to the correct contract" because it's too easy to construct auctions.

But....

I wouldn't open 2C, I would open 1H.

A possible auction is

1H - 4S
6S

which has the advantage of brevity.

Another possible auction is
1H - 1S
3D - and North won't be kept out of slam now, although it might be in diamonds

[mikeh]

FrancesHinden, on Mar 26 2009, 01:21 PM, said:

I don't often reply to problems you post both hands and say "how do we bid to the correct contract" because it's too easy to construct auctions.

But....

I wouldn't open 2C, I would open 1H.

A possible auction is

1H - 4S
6S

which has the advantage of brevity.

Another possible auction is
1H - 1S
3D - and North won't be kept out of slam now, although it might be in diamonds

I also wouldn't open 2♣, and I like both of Frances' suggestions

[kenrexford]

All kinds of auctions are possible, but I cannot imagine 6NT as the final contract. If South bid 6NT at any point in any plausible auction, as North I'd bid an angry 7♦ and make partner pick the grand.

[ArtK78]

This looks more like a typical "ATB" posting, with South getting most, if not all, of the blame.

[skjaeran]

I'd also open 1♥, but it's a borderline decision.

[pirate22]

with the south hand open 1 ht-if pard cannot respond you are well out of it,even if pard passes opps will bid---------but in reality pard will bid 1 spade-now bid 3 diamonds-pard a bit interested now---by agreement 4cl is now 4th suit forcing-you will now be in 6 diamonds-or 6 spades regards