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To Balance or not to Balance Go quietly?

Poll: Your bid (40 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid

  1. Pass. (15 votes [37.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  2. Dbl (25 votes [62.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 62.50%

  3. 3 CL (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   jmcw 

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Posted 2009-March-18, 09:14

IMP scoring AND VUL against you, are you brave or (silly) enough to bid.

Scoring: IMP

The bidding goes 2D P P ?

Are you willing to risk getting your head handed to you on this one?
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Posted 2009-March-18, 09:18

Partner has either a very bad hand (and RHO trap-passed) or he has diamonds and will be happy about our double. If RHO trap-passed I don't think we'll be too many downs playing at the 2 level (if we play at the three level 'cause partner has clubs great, if partner jumps...). I just double and see what developes.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2009-March-18, 09:38

There are other holdings that partner could have.

He could have a hand very much like your hand. This hand is not strong enough to act in direct seat over a 2♦ preempt (IMO). Quite frankly, partner's hand could be better than your hand. IMO, one does not act in direct seat over a preempt with mediocre hands. A direct action should show a good hand.

Given that, it is necessary to balance with this hand. Whether you should balance with a double or with a 3♣ call is the only matter that is unresolved. If the clubs were better, I would balance with 3♣ on this shape. But with only AJxxx of clubs, double is fine.

I would not pass out 2♦. We could miss a game or a large penalty depending on what type of hand partner has.

That is not to say that balancing is without risk.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 09:59

Vul vs. not-vul, direct seat is not overcalling on borderline hands opposite two unlimited hands, which means that with the right shape [translate that = short in their suit] the balancing seat must take action. I suppose Jx is shortness though I'd like it shorter...
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Posted 2009-March-18, 10:33

I would like to have a real shortness, or the majors, or a good hand to act.
I have nothing, I go quitely.

I know this is not popular at BBF, but this no popularity contest anyway.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 11:23

For me it's an normal pass. We don't have the proper shape or strength for a reopening double (we need either a better shape or a better hand). The limit of trap passing at the colours is up to 2NT. Double may produce a jump response from partner and that may not work properly.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 11:28

Pard rates not to have a 5 card major and points. But he can have 5 in a major and a sub opening, or 4 major and a couple hcps.

Dbl, though pass is close.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 11:33

This is very close for me. I voted to pass, but if PD X's and it works out badly, I won't criticize.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 11:49

It's borderline, but I'd Dbl.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 14:08

I am happy to double.
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Posted 2009-March-18, 17:31

I would pass here.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 10:31

Pass. I wouldn't criticize double with the actual cards and I would definitely double if ♦J were the ♥J.
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  Posted 2009-March-19, 10:35

Not close to me at all. RHO's silence is worrysome. Pass and defend.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 11:17

Are we in a plus position in 2♦? (no)

Are we taking a big risk by bidding? (a slight risk, but not a great one)

I will double. Hopefully pard does not go nuts.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 11:32

I would double and would not have even considered any other action.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 12:35

Good problem. I know I would double but I don't know if this is right.
and the result can be plotted on a graph.
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Posted 2009-March-19, 16:30

Agree with hanp. This would've felt like an auto double because I have a hand that fits in perfectly; short diamonds, enough values to compete in the bal seat and I want to fight for a partscore.
But never considered it can go really astray
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Posted 2009-March-19, 19:21

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