[Echognome]

Scoring: IMP

1♦ - 1♥;
2♣ - 3NT;
?

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1) Do you agree with the bidding thus far?

2) What is your call now?

3) What do you think 4♥ should show here (whether you make that call or not)?

[JLOL]

4H does not promise this good of a hand, but I see no other reasonable bid.

[jdonn]

I think 4♥ promises at least nearly this good of a hand. I bid it now not because I think we belong in hearts, but because I think it will let partner essentially place us in the right contract (or 4NT if 3NT was the 'right' contract) right now.

[gnasher]

I think partner's upper limit is about 15, and he shouldn't have either five hearts or good support for a minor. In that case, 4♥ isn't an overbid, and it might even get us too high. Partner might go down in 4NT with something like KJxx Axxx Jx Axx.

What are we hoping for when we bid 4♥? KQxx Axxx Kx QJ10 is a good slam; so is KJx Axxx Q10x Axx. However, both of these are well-fitting maxima. Move either of those tens to the other minor and slam becomes rather worse, but partner will probably still insist on slam.

I think it's close between 4♥ and pass. I'd pass.

Edit: On reflection, I don't think it's close. That singleton ace is horrible, and I think pass is clear.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2009-April-06, 05:58

[whereagles]

Pard's got 44 majors and 13-15. Are we supposed to move on with a max of 32 hcp and possible misfit?

Pass.

[andy_h]

I think partner's got a junky 13 typically 44 or 34 in the majors. My minor suits aren't that great as slam seems unlikely so I will rest in 3NT. Partner shouldn't have decent fit for one of the minors with decent controls.

[helene_t]

Maybe stupid question, but if p would need some 18 points for a quantitative 4NT, can't he have up to 17 now? Or would a 16-18 hand go via FSF or something?

My first thought was 4NT, but 4♥ is better.

[mtvesuvius]

I'm gonna pass. Give partner bad ♥ spots, and 4♥ and maybe even 4NT is bad. I think that we aren't moving to slam, despite my maximum, so I think that 4♥ may even get us too high. Admittedly, opposite Kxxx ATxx KQx Qx slam is excellent, but I just think that's too bid of a risk to take, seeing as partner will probably still move with KQxx Axxx Qx QJx, making it a bad slam...

[Phil]

On the record for 4N. 4♥ gets partner to really downgrade the ♠K and we don't want that.

I think we can back into hearts if we need to.