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#1 User is offline   Echognome 

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Posted 2009-January-26, 00:54

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(P) - 2 - (3) - Dbl - All Pass


For better or worse, you double the opponents. (Feel free to comment on that decision).

What do you lead?

Edit: Dealer and auction.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 01:49

spade...pard bid suit in second seat.

If you do not want me to lead your bid suit...do not bid it.

Please do not bid on crap.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 02:02

A asking for Attitude.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 02:07

Given that p opened a weak two in 2nd seat being
red vs. green, double is ok.

I lead the Ace of hearts (or the king depending
on your agreements) to have a look at the table.

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Posted 2009-January-26, 02:30

Hey Matt,

I would always lead a systemic high heart and wouldn't think twice about it.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 02:42

A as well for me
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Posted 2009-January-26, 06:56

A. I want to get my partner a ruff with his stiff trump or be able to tap declarer, then put partner in to run . Of course I'm probably dreaming here, but even if none of this happens, a rates to be the correct lead.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 07:19

High heart. Need to see dummy. A continuation in all four suits could be right.

Feel okay about the double, but ready to take blame.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 09:20

Double was obvious.
My partner should be short in clubs, so he is hardly short in hearts too. So I lead the ace for attitude, not the King for count.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 09:44

The logic behind a heart is almost irrefutable. A heart or spade could be right, but some of the time a spade is right it won't be too late at trick 2. Any of the time a heart was right, a spade blew it. And obviously we are much more likely to know what is (was?) right after seeing dummy and trick 1.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 10:10

I'd lead K. If I have to shift to partner should read me for a stiff... he probably does already but I think this is a pretty standard agreement.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 11:33

kfay, on Jan 26 2009, 11:10 AM, said:

I'd lead K. If I have to shift to partner should read me for a stiff... he probably does already but I think this is a pretty standard agreement.

Agree. Why not let pard know his Q is an entry?
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Posted 2009-January-26, 11:52

As most people lead a systemic heart (wouldn't the A tell partner his Q was an entry if you lead A from AK??). Now what do you do at trick 2?





Partner will play an encouraging heart. Sorry if this is trivial now.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 11:55

I will continue with the King of hearts (or with the Ace),
if it holds, I will play a 3rd round of hearts.

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Posted 2009-January-26, 11:58

K and then a spade, probably. Unless dummy asks for something else.

Having watched that dummy, I'll return A and another heart next.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2009-January-26, 12:01

Echognome, on Jan 26 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

As most people lead a systemic heart (wouldn't the A tell partner his Q was an entry if you lead A from AK??). Now what do you do at trick 2?





Partner will play an encouraging heart. Sorry if this is trivial now.

Matt, I think it's quite possible we would lead the A on an auction like this with a void spade and a great trump stack. Therefore, an encouraging card should confirm the Queen, but this argument looks better in the post mortem, so I'm not underleading hearts at this point.

However, I really don't care that much if pard has the Queen or xx (with a trump).
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Posted 2009-January-26, 12:14

I will play my 2nd and lead a 3rd one, beginning a tap or giving partner a ruff.
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Posted 2009-January-26, 16:08

mike777, on Jan 26 2009, 07:49 AM, said:

Please do not bid on crap.

Roger that.

I'll lead a heart, though.
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Posted 2009-January-27, 02:06

It's not trivial, but it is fairly easy. I play ace and another trump. When I get in with the other top heart, I play a spade, in order to prevent any squeeze or endplay.

If declarer has x xx AQxx KQ10xxx, the three people who have played two more rounds of hearts will have let through an overtrick.

Edit: if declarer has the example hand I gave, partner will be squeezed down to a singleton heart by the penultimate trump. If declarer now leads a heart, I let partner win with his blank queen, and partner will play a low diamond. In due course I'll get in with the third round of diamonds to play a spade through dummy.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2009-January-27, 02:52

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2009-January-27, 12:21

Full marks to Andy. The full hand was something like:



I lead a spade and I think we could have still set it from there, but didn't find the cash out and promo.
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