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Deterrent factor Suitable rebid and why ?

#1 User is offline   H_KARLUK 

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Posted 2009-January-22, 11:01

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P      1♠  P  2♣*
2♥** ?

  *2♣ may have 3 cards but guarantees 13 HCP
**2♥ may also have 5 cards ♠ suit; exactly 5-5 shape, 8-10 HCP; if directly opened 2♥ would suggest strong bicolor hand (16-21); direct 2♠ also (16-21) single suiter
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Posted 2009-January-22, 11:09

3♣
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Posted 2009-January-22, 11:30

jillybean2, on Jan 22 2009, 12:09 PM, said:

3♣

Ditto. This is too weak for 3♥. I see no problem here...
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Posted 2009-January-22, 11:31

3H showing short hearts and a club fit which is what I would have bid without the 2H bid, and is even more attractive after it.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 12:43

3♣ - must be 100% forcing given the 13 points partner has right?
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Posted 2009-January-22, 13:07

Mosene, on Jan 22 2009, 11:43 AM, said:

3♣ - must be 100% forcing given the 13 points partner has right?

We hope so :D
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Posted 2009-January-22, 13:10

jillybean2, on Jan 22 2009, 02:07 PM, said:

Mosene, on Jan 22 2009, 11:43 AM, said:

3♣ - must be 100% forcing given the 13 points partner has right?

We hope so :D

Otherwise Jilly will send this partner to Vuroth's Charity tournement for you :).
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Posted 2009-January-22, 13:16

First time in my life I would ignore one of my principles. Normally I prefer to wait last post before I claim double dummy mostly without comment. I assure everybody that I have full respect all inputs posted here. Nice efforts as usual and i proud of to be a member of this forum. Just trying to be sure if i am taken right.

So 3C competition, but 3H GF showing shortness in opp suit and fit to C?

Thanks and hopefully noone misunderstands me.

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Posted 2009-January-22, 13:20

H_KARLUK, on Jan 22 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

So 3C competition, but 3H GF?

Thanks and hopefully noone misunderstands me.

Hamdi, 3♣ is still GF because partner has made a GF call. The interference does not change this. 3♥ varies by partnership agreement. It can be a splinter or a Strong Cuebid... Either way, I think this hand is too weak for a 3♥ bid.
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Posted 2009-January-22, 13:24

mtvesuvius, on Jan 22 2009, 12:10 PM, said:

jillybean2, on Jan 22 2009, 02:07 PM, said:

Mosene, on Jan 22 2009, 11:43 AM, said:

3♣ - must be 100% forcing given the 13 points partner has right?

We hope so :D

Otherwise Jilly will send this partner to Vuroth's Charity tournement for you :).

LOL right, we could start collecting them.
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Posted 2009-January-23, 02:25

3 ♣ is forcing when you play normal openers.
But this hand is great, not minimum, so I show it with 3 ♥. My second choice would be 4 ♥, not 3 ♣- but that would be a bid too much.
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Posted 2009-January-23, 09:51

Totally agree with 3♥ which should still be a splinter. Other bids are just natural. You don't need a cuebid to show a good hand, any minimum level bid including pass is forcing.
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