Kxx AKT9xx Q8xx ---
imps w/w partner dealer:
1C p 1H p
2C p 2D* p
3D p 3H p
3S p ?
2D artificial GF.
Do you agree with your previous bidding? What do you bid now?
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3N or not?
#2
Posted 2008-June-20, 12:28
Agree with the previous bidding.
Partner is 2=1=4=6 or 3=0=4=6 without good spades. Something like xx x AJxx AKJ9xx would be typical. 3NT just seems like it'd be too difficult. It's possible partner has instead Qx x AJxx AJxxxx but then I'm really hoping for no wastage in clubs and I still will have a hard time setting up a suit (probably need ♥s 3-3). I think from the sounds of it that our best game is going to be 5♦, so I'm just going to bid that now.
Partner is 2=1=4=6 or 3=0=4=6 without good spades. Something like xx x AJxx AKJ9xx would be typical. 3NT just seems like it'd be too difficult. It's possible partner has instead Qx x AJxx AJxxxx but then I'm really hoping for no wastage in clubs and I still will have a hard time setting up a suit (probably need ♥s 3-3). I think from the sounds of it that our best game is going to be 5♦, so I'm just going to bid that now.
"Half the people you know are below average." - Steven Wright
#3
Posted 2008-June-20, 14:17
No I'm not 3Ning - I'll 4♦. I had a similar type hand last week, and 3N was a problem but 5♦ was cold. I expect a 3=0=4=6 or similar - maybe a 2=1=4=6 - so 4♥ may be a good spot too.
"Phil" on BBO
#4
Posted 2008-June-20, 14:42
Not 3N..... this looks like an instructive hand for those who run to notrump in the face of a misfit... it is rarely the best spot.
I am seduced into 4♥ by possession of the 9.. I would bid 4♦ with only AK10xxx. I will probably hate this if partner is void.. but even then, I may be able to elope with 10 tricks by ruffing clubs.. although entries may be a problem.
And, if he has a stiff, then 4♥ is probably better than 5♦.
Admittedly, a bid of 4♦ doesn't bar him from 4♥ on a stiff...... so I it is possible that I am masterminding here.
I am seduced into 4♥ by possession of the 9.. I would bid 4♦ with only AK10xxx. I will probably hate this if partner is void.. but even then, I may be able to elope with 10 tricks by ruffing clubs.. although entries may be a problem.
And, if he has a stiff, then 4♥ is probably better than 5♦.
Admittedly, a bid of 4♦ doesn't bar him from 4♥ on a stiff...... so I it is possible that I am masterminding here.
'one of the great markers of the advance of human kindness is the howls you will hear from the Men of God' Johann Hari
#5
Posted 2008-June-20, 16:52
Jlall, on Jun 20 2008, 01:22 PM, said:
imps w/w partner dealer: Kxx AKT9xx Q8xx ---
1C p 1H p
2C p 2D* p
3D p 3H p
3S p ?
2D artificial GF.
Do you agree with your previous bidding? What do you bid now?
1C p 1H p
2C p 2D* p
3D p 3H p
3S p ?
2D artificial GF.
Do you agree with your previous bidding? What do you bid now?
- Be serious! How can anyone fault Justin's bidding?

- Now I agree 4♦ = 10, 5♦ = 7, 4♥ = 6, 3N = 5.
4♦ offers a choice of red suit games.
#6
Posted 2008-June-20, 18:07
My initial reaction was to bid 5♦, but the other comments have persuaded me to bid 4♦, in case partner bids 4♥ with a stiff honour.
This seems a well controlled auction so far.
This seems a well controlled auction so far.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
#7
Posted 2008-June-20, 18:25
gnasher, on Jun 20 2008, 04:07 PM, said:
My initial reaction was to bid 5♦, but the other comments have persuaded me to bid 4♦, in case partner bids 4♥ with a stiff honour.
This seems a well controlled auction so far.
This seems a well controlled auction so far.
Yeah. I'm feeling 4♦ if interpreted correctly (and why shouldn't it be?) is better. At least I'm with the Or Not? crowd.
"Half the people you know are below average." - Steven Wright
#9 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-June-21, 03:15
Ok, so you bid 4D and partner drives to 6.
They lead a trump and dummy is:
Ax
x
AKTx
KJT97x
How do you play it?
They lead a trump and dummy is:
Ax
x
AKTx
KJT97x
How do you play it?
#10
Posted 2008-June-21, 17:45
Given the lead, diamonds are probably 3-2.
The two lines I'd consider are:
(1) Cash dummy's top trumps, ace of hearts, heart ruff, spade to hand, heart ruff. That fails when RHO has two hearts and three diamonds. Its chances of success are roughly:
Hearts 3=3: 36%
Hearts 2=4: 24%
Hearts 4=2, diamonds 3=2: about 10% ?
(2) Take two ruffing finesses in clubs:
Clubs 4-3 with at least one honour onside: 3/4 x 62 = 46.5
Clubs 5=2 with at least one honour onside: 2/7 + 5/7 x 2/6 x 30 / 2 ~= 8%
about 8% I think
So, playing on hearts seems better.
I'm not sure what I'd have done at the table, except that I'm sure it wouldn't have involved the above calculations.
The two lines I'd consider are:
(1) Cash dummy's top trumps, ace of hearts, heart ruff, spade to hand, heart ruff. That fails when RHO has two hearts and three diamonds. Its chances of success are roughly:
Hearts 3=3: 36%
Hearts 2=4: 24%
Hearts 4=2, diamonds 3=2: about 10% ?
(2) Take two ruffing finesses in clubs:
Clubs 4-3 with at least one honour onside: 3/4 x 62 = 46.5
Clubs 5=2 with at least one honour onside: 2/7 + 5/7 x 2/6 x 30 / 2 ~= 8%
about 8% I think
So, playing on hearts seems better.
I'm not sure what I'd have done at the table, except that I'm sure it wouldn't have involved the above calculations.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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