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Posted 2008-June-20, 12:29



Imps, world class opps, RHO opens 1D, you bid 1S, partner bids 2D, and you just bash 4S.

LHO leads the D7, third and fifth. RHO wins the queen and shifts to a heart. You win the HQ, cash the ace, and ruff a heart, RHO following with the king. Now you lead a diamond and RHO plays the ace, you ruff, LHO plays the 8. You cash the club ace and lead your last heart, LHO pitching the DT. You cash the spade ace, leaving this position:



You lead a diamond and RHO covers with the king. Do you agree with your previous play? What do you do now?
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Posted 2008-June-20, 13:04

RHO is 4=5 in the reds, and LHO 3=3. Both had at least one in each black suit.

If rho were xxx KJxx AKQxx x, I'd think that he might well switch to a club at trick 2. And anyway, I think I have problems with that layout. If I ruff with the Q and then lead a low trump, LHO wins his now stiff Jack and cashes a club and gives partner a club ruff.

And I don't think I can ever make if LHO has Jx(x) of trumps left at this stage, regardless of who holds the club K.

So I ruff with the 10, as LHO pitches a club (I hope). I cash the Queen, with both following.

Regardless of who played what, so long as they both followed, I exit in trump.

If LHO wins:

If he has the club K, he can cash it and surrender to dummy's Queen, or he can underlead it, and I pop the Q, with complete assurance, since RHO is endplayed if he held the K.

If rho wins, he is 3=4=5=1 (Jxx KJxx AKQxx x) and has to lead a diamond to dummy, giving me 4 spades, 2 hearts, 2 ruffs, a club and a diamond.
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Posted 2008-June-20, 19:17

mikeh, on Jun 20 2008, 02:04 PM, said:

So I ruff with the 10, as LHO pitches a club (I hope). I cash the Queen, with both following.

Regardless of who played what, so long as they both followed, I exit in trump.

If LHO wins:

If he has the club K, he can cash it and surrender to dummy's Queen, or he can underlead it, and I pop the Q, with complete assurance, since RHO is endplayed if he held the K.

If rho wins, he is 3=4=5=1 (Jxx KJxx AKQxx x) and has to lead a diamond to dummy, giving me 4 spades, 2 hearts, 2 ruffs, a club and a diamond.

Sadly, the Laws of bridge require you to pitch something from dummy on the Q and spade exit. :P

I like your line of ruffing with the 10, cashing the Queen and exiting with a trump too.
If LHO follows to the last trump RHO is 2452, and may have opened 1NT with the K, so I pitch a diamond and play LHO for the K.
If LHO shows out, then RHO is 3451 and has to give dummy a diamond (club pitch).

This post has been edited by 655321: 2008-June-20, 19:31

That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-June-20, 19:30

655321, on Jun 20 2008, 08:17 PM, said:

mikeh, on Jun 20 2008, 02:04 PM, said:

So I ruff with the 10, as LHO pitches a club (I hope). I cash the Queen, with both following.

Regardless of who played what, so long as they both followed, I exit in trump.

If LHO wins:

If he has the club K, he can cash it and surrender to dummy's Queen, or he can underlead it, and I pop the Q, with complete assurance, since RHO is endplayed if he held the K.

If rho wins, he is 3=4=5=1 (Jxx KJxx AKQxx x) and has to lead a diamond to dummy, giving me 4 spades, 2 hearts, 2 ruffs, a club and a diamond.

Sadly, the Laws of bridge require you to pitch something from dummy on the Q and spade exit. :P

too true :P Ok, then if rho is winning the 3rd spade, i pitch a club. If lho, then I pitch a diamond, and play the long clubs to hold the K... Jx KJxx AKQxx Kx just might open 1N. Jxx KJxx AKQxx x is endplayed
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Posted 2008-June-20, 21:57

What is the Nt range of the opps ?
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Posted 2008-June-21, 03:14

Strong NT for opps.
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Posted 2008-June-21, 03:35

Jlall, on Jun 20 2008, 07:29 PM, said:

Do you agree with your previous play?

No: I wouldn't have cashed the ace of clubs. Instead, I would have used it as an entry to my hand after cashing K. In the diagram position, I'd be in hand rather than in dummy. I'd cash Q, hoping for the jack to drop, then lead a club towards the queen. This gains over the line being dissed by MikeH and 655321 when LHO has Jx.

Alternatively, if my plan is to make my small trumps by ruffing, the correct sequence is HQ, HA, H ruff, D ruff, spade to dummy, D ruff, A, H ruff. That is, I take my two diamond ruffs without letting RHO discard a diamond.

With the play as it's gone, I'm puzzled that I seem to have a diamond winner in dummy. Either RHO has AKQ only, or he's trying to make me think he has. If he has AKQ only, he has Jxxx KJxx AKQ xx and I should ruff low. However, that would give his partner x xxx 1087xx Kxxx, which doesn't look like a pass over 1. So, I'd play for RHO to have five diamonds, and play as suggested by MikeH.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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