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Balance?

Poll: Balance? (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Balance?

  1. P (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. 1NT (1 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  3. 1D (20 votes [83.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.33%

  4. x, then 1NT (1 votes [4.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.17%

  5. x, then 1D (2 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

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#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2008-February-14, 02:05

IMPs, All Red

♠KTx ♥x ♦AKQxx ♣QJxx

1NT = 11-14ish.

(1♣)-P-(P)-?

Edit: Lol at "x then 1D" option. This is obviously "x then 2D if possible"

Edit2: God I am stupid tonight. LHO opens 1♣.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 02:22

Did someone open something?
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Posted 2008-February-14, 02:23

Cascade, on Feb 14 2008, 01:22 AM, said:

Did someone open something?

:) Edited.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 02:25

Cascade, on Feb 14 2008, 09:22 AM, said:

Did someone open something?

Yes, they opened 1C. You're being asked whether to balance, and 1D is listed as an option.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-February-14, 02:25

1♦ looks normal to me.
Wayne Burrows

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Posted 2008-February-14, 07:08

Dbl + diamonds for me. Alternative: a straight 2♦.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 07:50

1D, a little heavy (but not really), but nothing else is remotely close.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 08:09

Well, if I did double, Opener XX, pass-pass to me, I would bid 1♦.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 08:17

Great idea, Ken. If I bid 1♠ and p bid 1NT I would raise to 3.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 10:15

1D for me please.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-February-14, 10:56

I hate to balance with club length and shortness in a major, I reeeeeeeeally want to pass it out. But I just can't make myself do it with a hand this good :) 1♦ it is.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 11:02

jdonn, on Feb 14 2008, 11:56 AM, said:

I hate to balance with club length and shortness in a major, I reeeeeeeeally want to pass it out. But I just can't make myself do it with a hand this good :) 1♦ it is.

Good that you can't make yourself do something retarded!
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Posted 2008-February-14, 11:06

Jlall, on Feb 14 2008, 12:02 PM, said:

jdonn, on Feb 14 2008, 11:56 AM, said:

I hate to balance with club length and shortness in a major, I reeeeeeeeally want to pass it out. But I just can't make myself do it with a hand this good :( 1♦ it is.

Good that you can't make yourself do something retarded!

Why dont you two get married already? Its inevitable. :)

And I bid 1♦ as well.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 11:11

grrigg, on Feb 14 2008, 12:06 PM, said:

Jlall, on Feb 14 2008, 12:02 PM, said:

jdonn, on Feb 14 2008, 11:56 AM, said:

I hate to balance with club length and shortness in a major, I reeeeeeeeally want to pass it out. But I just can't make myself do it with a hand this good :( 1♦ it is.

Good that you can't make yourself do something retarded!

Why dont you two get married already? Its inevitable. :)

And I bid 1♦ as well.

funny you should mention that, we are facebook married :(
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Posted 2008-February-14, 12:01

Jlall, on Feb 14 2008, 06:11 PM, said:

grrigg, on Feb 14 2008, 12:06 PM, said:

Jlall, on Feb 14 2008, 12:02 PM, said:

jdonn, on Feb 14 2008, 11:56 AM, said:

I hate to balance with club length and shortness in a major, I reeeeeeeeally want to pass it out. But I just can't make myself do it with a hand this good :( 1♦ it is.

Good that you can't make yourself do something retarded!

Why dont you two get married already? Its inevitable. :)

And I bid 1♦ as well.

funny you should mention that, we are facebook married :(

Good for you! :D

Agree with 1♦.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 12:15

He is the perfect spouse. See even when we agree he tries to start an argument!
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Posted 2008-February-14, 15:56

If you don't mind me changing the subject slightly (there doesn't seem to be much disagreement here), do you feel that

1♣-P-P-1♦ shows fewer HCP than
1♣-1♦?

My opinion on bidding over a preferential minor is just let them play it unless I've got a very good suit or a very good hand. Therefore, while a 'balance', this should have a lot more points than a normal 'balance'. This would also be true for 1♣-P-P-1NT.

Am I 'way out there', or is this what the experts play?
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Posted 2008-February-14, 16:03

jtfanclub, on Feb 14 2008, 01:56 PM, said:

If you don't mind me changing the subject slightly (there doesn't seem to be much disagreement here), do you feel that

1♣-P-P-1♦ shows fewer HCP than
1♣-1♦?

My opinion on bidding over a preferential minor is just let them play it unless I've got a very good suit or a very good hand. Therefore, while a 'balance', this should have a lot more points than a normal 'balance'. This would also be true for 1♣-P-P-1NT.

Am I 'way out there', or is this what the experts play?

No the opposite is true.
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Posted 2008-February-14, 16:04

pclayton, on Feb 14 2008, 05:03 PM, said:

No the opposite is true.

Never let them play one of a minor?
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Posted 2008-February-14, 16:16

You could be lighter in balancing seat than in direct seat, especially for the 1NT call.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
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