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1) Do you agree with your second pass?
2) Regardless of your answer to 1) above, what is your call now?
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Posted 2008-January-27, 00:30
1) Do you agree with your second pass?
2) Regardless of your answer to 1) above, what is your call now?
"Half the people you know are below average." - Steven Wright
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Posted 2008-January-27, 00:36
No I don't agree, I think the hand is too good to pass the first time. I would bid 1NT.
Now I can't pass of course, I'd like to make a sensible invite but I don't have one. 4H!
Now I can't pass of course, I'd like to make a sensible invite but I don't have one. 4H!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 01:03
1 Yes
2 3♥
2 3♥
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Posted 2008-January-27, 01:50
1. Yes, but only because I dislike all other calls more than I dislike pass. Playing with a partner who rarely makes 4 card overcalls I would probably raise to 2♠.
2. Why shouldn't a 3m bid here be similar to a "3.5 heart" bid? Seems right. I would bid 3♣ and if pard bids 3♦ then I would bid 4♥.
2. Why shouldn't a 3m bid here be similar to a "3.5 heart" bid? Seems right. I would bid 3♣ and if pard bids 3♦ then I would bid 4♥.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 01:54
I would have bid 1N the first time, but at MP pass is fine. No big deal either way.
Wow@ considering this a 3.5 heart bid, if I made a cuebid it would be to try for slam. Partner bid 2H freely in an auction where his LHO might easily have had a trap pass and where his partner has shown weakness. He also chose to bid 2H rather than to double so his hand probably has shape rather than just HCP. I think this is an easy game force, I would not try for slam, so 4H. I would raise to 3H with 5 trumps and zero points FWIW. Or with JT KJxx xxx xxxx.
Wow@ considering this a 3.5 heart bid, if I made a cuebid it would be to try for slam. Partner bid 2H freely in an auction where his LHO might easily have had a trap pass and where his partner has shown weakness. He also chose to bid 2H rather than to double so his hand probably has shape rather than just HCP. I think this is an easy game force, I would not try for slam, so 4H. I would raise to 3H with 5 trumps and zero points FWIW. Or with JT KJxx xxx xxxx.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 01:58
Agree with pass. I'm supposed to find a call with a random 8 caount when pard overcalls?
Now I bid 4♥.
Now I bid 4♥.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 02:00
Ok it didn't take long but I am convinced already I underbid with 3♥. Go figure.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
#8 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2008-January-27, 02:00
pclayton, on Jan 27 2008, 02:58 AM, said:
Agree with pass. I'm supposed to find a call with a random 8 caount when pard overcalls?
No, but with prime 9 counts and JT of partner's suit you are.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 02:03
Must partner be 5-5 here? If so, must he have a hand too strong for "weak Michaels"
If yes, yes, then I see your point. Actually I guess it's not that easy to construct a hand where 4h is a bad contract.
If yes, yes, then I see your point. Actually I guess it's not that easy to construct a hand where 4h is a bad contract.
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Posted 2008-January-27, 03:40
#1 yes, due to a lack of reasonable alternatives,
the only remote alternative to pass would be 2S,
and I am not sure, that I would bid this
#2 3H, partner will bid 4H if it makes
Pass is out, I owe partner a sign of life and
partnership knowledge helps a lot to get this
right
With kind regards
Marlowe
the only remote alternative to pass would be 2S,
and I am not sure, that I would bid this
#2 3H, partner will bid 4H if it makes
Pass is out, I owe partner a sign of life and
partnership knowledge helps a lot to get this
right
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-January-27, 04:18
1) I can't resist to bid something, so it it will be 1NT for me.
2) Now, I don't think 3♥ is enough, so let's go for 4♥...
2) Now, I don't think 3♥ is enough, so let's go for 4♥...
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Posted 2008-January-27, 06:55
(1) No. I would have bid 1NT.
(2) 3C or 3D would obviously show a strong invitation in hearts. However, I'd bid 4H.
My spots in partner's suits suggest that he has a decent hand, and the fact that he doesn't have these may discourage him from accepting the invitation.
Also, if I just invite he will expect a hand that has improved, rather than one that has underbid. This may lead him to place me with a singleton spade rather than the chunky doubleton that I actually possess.
(2) 3C or 3D would obviously show a strong invitation in hearts. However, I'd bid 4H.
My spots in partner's suits suggest that he has a decent hand, and the fact that he doesn't have these may discourage him from accepting the invitation.
Also, if I just invite he will expect a hand that has improved, rather than one that has underbid. This may lead him to place me with a singleton spade rather than the chunky doubleton that I actually possess.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-January-27, 08:10
1) Disagree with the 2nd pass. Obvious 1NT IMO.
2) 4♥
2) 4♥
Kind regards,
Harald
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