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How Do You Play These Doubles?

#1 User is offline   rogerclee 

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Posted 2008-January-22, 06:04

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1♣-P-1♠-P
1NT-P-P-DBL
P-2♥-?

How do you play double here (by the 1♠ bidder)?

2)

1♣-P-1♠-P
1NT-P-P-DBL
P-2♥-P-P
?

How do you play double here (by the 1NT bidder)?

Edit: Sorry, fixed the formatting craziness.
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Posted 2008-January-22, 06:19

Please format better, the Doubles are from passers here (5 bids on a line gets you in trouble)
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Posted 2008-January-22, 10:22

1. It's card showing. Obviously a max pass - 10-ish and 2-3 hearts.

2. I like to play this as a 'safety double'. I like it to show a max 1N call, 4 decent hearts, AND 3 card support for pard. It invites defending, unless pard bid 1♠ on cheese. ♠Axx ♥KQTx ♦xxx ♣KQx
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Posted 2008-January-22, 10:47

Agree with Phil.
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Posted 2008-January-22, 10:53

Agree with Helene.
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Posted 2008-January-22, 11:00

Wow, first time today someone agrees with me. I should agree with Phil more often.
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Posted 2008-January-22, 12:39

1) Penalties to the extent that can be in, which in this case means a maximum and three good hearts. Opener might take it out with 3=2 or 2=2 in the majors, but will leave it in otherwise.

2) Penalties. The hand posted by pclayton would do nicely, except that I don't want partner to consider pulling it.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 12:30

I always lose a lot of IMPs when this impossible dobles from 1NT bidder come.
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Posted 2008-January-23, 16:27

helene_t, on Jan 22 2008, 12:00 PM, said:

Wow, first time today someone agrees with me. I should agree with Phil more often.

I agree with this.
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