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#1 User is offline   Walddk 

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Posted 2008-January-04, 08:28

Our vugraph broadcasts from the CNFC Winter Nationals in India have been cancelled because the organisers are concerned about security. We must obviously accept that.

Would you believe that this will be the first time for 27 weeks where there is no vugraph over a weekend (we had one week off in the summer). So vugraph freaks must be patient and wait for stage 1 of the Camrose Trophy 2008 from Northern Ireland on January 11-13.

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Posted 2008-January-04, 08:53

Arghhhhhhhh ! :( :(
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Posted 2008-January-04, 15:27

Walddk, on Jan 4 2008, 09:28 AM, said:

Our vugraph broadcasts from the CNFC Winter Nationals in India have been cancelled because the organisers are concerned about security. We must obviously accept that.

Why must we "obviously accept that"? Should we passively accept all irrational decisions made by bridge administrators or should we seek to lobby and persuade such individuals to change their point of view?
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Posted 2008-January-04, 15:39

mrdct, on Jan 4 2008, 03:27 PM, said:

Walddk, on Jan 4 2008, 09:28 AM, said:

Our vugraph broadcasts from the CNFC Winter Nationals in India have been cancelled because the organisers are concerned about security. We must obviously accept that.

Why must we "obviously accept that"? Should we passively accept all irrational decisions made by bridge administrators or should we seek to lobby and persuade such individuals to change their point of view?

Yes, you should passively accept all judgment calls by administrators organizing events which you are not involved with at all. I think the world would be a better place if more people did that.
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Posted 2008-January-04, 16:12

mrdct, on Jan 4 2008, 11:27 PM, said:

Walddk, on Jan 4 2008, 09:28 AM, said:

Our vugraph broadcasts from the CNFC Winter Nationals in India have been cancelled because the organisers are concerned about security. We must obviously accept that.

Why must we "obviously accept that"? Should we passively accept all irrational decisions made by bridge administrators or should we seek to lobby and persuade such individuals to change their point of view?

Yes David, we must accept it because we have no right to interfere with a decision local organisers make. At least that is the BBO policy for now.

With this said, I agree with you that we should try to convince organisers who are not already "reformed" that perhaps it's not such a good idea to cancel a broadcast. Not if their aim is to promote bridge in their countries, and I strongly believe that all bridge politicians want that.

It's disappointing that this happened, not least for our contacts in India, Buddy Shah and Mahesh Rohera, who have put so much effort into the preparations. Waste of their time and goodwill, sadly; waste of my time too but that's a minor issue.

This was a last minute decision after the organisers approved about two months ago. "We tried our best and even offered that the boards will be duplicated in the presence of anyone the committee approves and that the boards can be kept in their custody", Mahesh wrote earlier today. No luck, the broadcast is off.

In an e-mail to Buddy and Mahesh I have expressed our support and that we, as far as future broadcasts are concerned, should try to convince the organisers that they made a mistake. I have also assured our contacts that they are most welcome to use our software free of charge whenever they get an opportunity to show high quality bridge from India.

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Posted 2008-January-04, 16:33

We barely make policy for ourselves and we don't have any official stance on this sort of matter but in general, we surely know that "things happen." I understand someone getting cold feet at the last minute.

Lobbying won't hurt if done properly, of course.
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Posted 2008-January-04, 21:49

It is their tournament. It is up to them to decide if they want vugraph on BBO or not.

And we are not even in a position to say whether they made the right decision or not. Maybe they know something that we don't know that makes the security situation different at their tournament than at most other tournaments.

A polite e-mail to the organizers expressing your disappointment in not being able to watch their tournament and your hope that such concerns will be addressed for future tournaments is unlikely to do any harm.

But it is probably not necessary. I have no doubt the organizers themselves (not to mention the players and many bridge fans in India) are disappointed too. I suspect the organizers will do whatever is possible to ensure that this does not happen again.

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Posted 2008-January-04, 23:15

mrdct, on Jan 5 2008, 05:27 AM, said:

Walddk, on Jan 4 2008, 09:28 AM, said:

Our vugraph broadcasts from the CNFC Winter Nationals in India have been cancelled because the organisers are concerned about security. We must obviously accept that.

Why must we "obviously accept that"? Should we passively accept all irrational decisions made by bridge administrators or should we seek to lobby and persuade such individuals to change their point of view?

If not then what are you going to do about it?
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Posted 2008-January-09, 02:03

Rossoneri, on Jan 5 2008, 01:15 AM, said:

mrdct, on Jan 5 2008, 05:27 AM, said:

Walddk, on Jan 4 2008, 09:28 AM, said:

Our vugraph broadcasts from the CNFC Winter Nationals in India have been cancelled because the organisers are concerned about security. We must obviously accept that.

Why must we "obviously accept that"? Should we passively accept all irrational decisions made by bridge administrators or should we seek to lobby and persuade such individuals to change their point of view?

If not then what are you going to do about it?

Whine and hold your breath until they change their mind.

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