[mike777]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtm...C-mostviewedbox


It looks like those darn astronomy majors...just killed us off.

[Winstonm]

So, Darth Vader is real, after all?

[luke warm]

and the multiverse... and, i guess, the underverse (ruled by "you keep what you kill" riddick)

[kfay]

When I took my first quantum class I was a little freaked out by what they were teaching me but I eventually wrapped my head around it...

This is like that only x 1 million.

[kfay]

Wait wait wait I read this all wrong. This guys is saying he wasn't implying causality at all, merely the elimination of a set of potential universal states.

*PHEW* Big load off my mind.

On a side note I was wondering about the feasibility of causality here. If we take the example of an electron flying around sure it has an indeterminate location but the fact that we're not observing it doesn't prevent it from having an E/M effect on surrounding particles.

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound? Well who knows but the swath the tree cuts is undeniably generated.

This whole application of quantum thought to universal phenomena doesn't seem to mesh to me. But then again I'm more a biologist now and didn't carry my physics education that far so what do I know. But to me it just looks like these guys are trying to make news.

[Al_U_Card]

kfay, on Nov 27 2007, 04:35 PM, said:

If we take the example of an electron flying around sure it has an indeterminate location but the fact that we're not observing it doesn't prevent it from having an E/M effect on surrounding particles.

Not only that but also that as it spins, the universe (as far as the electron is concerned) spins around it!!!! 2 degrees of freedom and 720 degrees of rotational symmetry. Forget about Kaluza-Klein implications. Physics is just scratching the surface.